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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul asks to be taken off Montana ballot</title>
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		<title>By: libertyforone</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13698</link>
		<dc:creator>libertyforone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all.

I just found this great article about voting for Ron Paul in all 50 states:  http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/hamilton4.html

I think it is a wonderful solution for those that are not pleased with any of the other choices we have.  Plus, it is better at sending a message than not voting at all.

Pass it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all.</p>
<p>I just found this great article about voting for Ron Paul in all 50 states:  <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/hamilton4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/hamilton4.html</a></p>
<p>I think it is a wonderful solution for those that are not pleased with any of the other choices we have.  Plus, it is better at sending a message than not voting at all.</p>
<p>Pass it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13446</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im not at liberty to say, as it would be a decision by ALL the elector candidates, not just me. There are nine of us, so it&#039;d be up to each.

As for my particular vote on the situation--I believe fusion isnt allowed, so Baldwin/Castle could not be nominated, and I dont think most of our electors would put Barr/Root on the ballot because we are Ron Paul supporters (even though some are big L, libertarians). So--I&#039;d vote to let our ballot access lapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not at liberty to say, as it would be a decision by ALL the elector candidates, not just me. There are nine of us, so it&#8217;d be up to each.</p>
<p>As for my particular vote on the situation&#8211;I believe fusion isnt allowed, so Baldwin/Castle could not be nominated, and I dont think most of our electors would put Barr/Root on the ballot because we are Ron Paul supporters (even though some are big L, libertarians). So&#8211;I&#8217;d vote to let our ballot access lapse.</p>
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		<title>By: NewFederalist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13360</link>
		<dc:creator>NewFederalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent- If that happens will you substitute another candidate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent- If that happens will you substitute another candidate?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13340</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Paul asks us to remove him from the ballot, we will do so--if only to respect his wishes. And more and more, Im suspecting he WILL ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Paul asks us to remove him from the ballot, we will do so&#8211;if only to respect his wishes. And more and more, Im suspecting he WILL ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Coming Back to the LP</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13337</link>
		<dc:creator>Coming Back to the LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GE,

I have no fight with you, but although I know personally dozens of famous Libertarians, including Ron Paul, whom I worked with in DC, I have no idea who you are.  Perhaps your fame has not transcended IPR&#039;s little universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GE,</p>
<p>I have no fight with you, but although I know personally dozens of famous Libertarians, including Ron Paul, whom I worked with in DC, I have no idea who you are.  Perhaps your fame has not transcended IPR&#8217;s little universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Coming Back to the LP</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13335</link>
		<dc:creator>Coming Back to the LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good news that Ron Paul has asked to be removed from the Montana ballot.  He should be removed from all Presidential ballots.

Why?

Because, Ron Paul has a great opportunity to be a sponsor, through his Campaign for Liberty, of a 6 way debate among all the candidates for President who have qualified for enough ballots to actually be elected by winning 270 or more Electoral Votes.

Of course some candidates may decline the invitation.  But, the CFL has enough money to sponsor the debates, enough credibility to bring in good moderators and questioners, enough clout to be recognized and covered, and enough money to pay to get the debates on nationwide TV.

Let&#039;s hope a debate announcement will come soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good news that Ron Paul has asked to be removed from the Montana ballot.  He should be removed from all Presidential ballots.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because, Ron Paul has a great opportunity to be a sponsor, through his Campaign for Liberty, of a 6 way debate among all the candidates for President who have qualified for enough ballots to actually be elected by winning 270 or more Electoral Votes.</p>
<p>Of course some candidates may decline the invitation.  But, the CFL has enough money to sponsor the debates, enough credibility to bring in good moderators and questioners, enough clout to be recognized and covered, and enough money to pay to get the debates on nationwide TV.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope a debate announcement will come soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrien,

Pretty much everyone at this site knows who GE is, we know who he works with, what he does for a living, and what he looks like. It is no mystery. He&#039;s just smarter than me, not wanting to turn up in Google searches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrien,</p>
<p>Pretty much everyone at this site knows who GE is, we know who he works with, what he does for a living, and what he looks like. It is no mystery. He&#8217;s just smarter than me, not wanting to turn up in Google searches.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13319</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian - Anyone who cares knows who I am. I use a moniker to stay out of Google searches, just like mscrib.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian &#8211; Anyone who cares knows who I am. I use a moniker to stay out of Google searches, just like mscrib.</p>
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		<title>By: johncjackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>johncjackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.E.= Global Elitist, duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.E.= Global Elitist, duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien Monteleone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien Monteleone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I see here is someone with the moniker &quot;G.E.&quot; claiming other people are being anonymous and not using their real names.  (if you didn&#039;t catch that &#039;G.E.&#039; then you really need to read that again, you, who uses initials instead of your name, is accusing others of hiding behind anonymity)

Second, I keep seeing G.E.&#039;s comments all over this site full of ad hominem attacks.  I see little issue discussion on your part, and instead, your comments are filled with flame throwing/baiting.

What&#039;s the deal man?  Lighten up will you?  This isn&#039;t the end of the world, and if it is, you won&#039;t stop it.  Express your opinion, but how about a little more substance and a little less vitriol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I see here is someone with the moniker &#8220;G.E.&#8221; claiming other people are being anonymous and not using their real names.  (if you didn&#8217;t catch that &#8216;G.E.&#8217; then you really need to read that again, you, who uses initials instead of your name, is accusing others of hiding behind anonymity)</p>
<p>Second, I keep seeing G.E.&#8217;s comments all over this site full of ad hominem attacks.  I see little issue discussion on your part, and instead, your comments are filled with flame throwing/baiting.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the deal man?  Lighten up will you?  This isn&#8217;t the end of the world, and if it is, you won&#8217;t stop it.  Express your opinion, but how about a little more substance and a little less vitriol.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe me, Matt. I plan on it. 

The point of the matter is that he never fixes outright statements in his articles that stand whether or not something else has been changed. Indeed, I completely agree that blogs are for commentary, hence the name, but for a site that pitches themselves as the &quot;independent political report&quot;, it&#039;s sure at odds with the inherent purpose of a blog. Proof in concept.

And really, the thing is, I don&#039;t have any problem with commentary. In fact, I encourage it. After all, what are we doing right now? Commentary. Great. So long as it&#039;s separate. What may be obvious to you or me is not the universal standard, though. And we are not very happy about this situation in the MSM, so why should it be permissible here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe me, Matt. I plan on it. </p>
<p>The point of the matter is that he never fixes outright statements in his articles that stand whether or not something else has been changed. Indeed, I completely agree that blogs are for commentary, hence the name, but for a site that pitches themselves as the &#8220;independent political report&#8221;, it&#8217;s sure at odds with the inherent purpose of a blog. Proof in concept.</p>
<p>And really, the thing is, I don&#8217;t have any problem with commentary. In fact, I encourage it. After all, what are we doing right now? Commentary. Great. So long as it&#8217;s separate. What may be obvious to you or me is not the universal standard, though. And we are not very happy about this situation in the MSM, so why should it be permissible here?</p>
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		<title>By: MattSwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13302</link>
		<dc:creator>MattSwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry if I underestimated what you&#039;ve done. I should have said that you haven&#039;t done anything I&#039;ve seen, which of course doesn&#039;t mean much.

I do think you&#039;re beating down the wrong door here, though. I visit daily and GE fixes headlines and edits stories the moment he&#039;s confronted with a discrepancy of any kind.  Blogs are supposed to provide commentary, and this site does that. If you want different commentary, or no commentary at all, go start that site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry if I underestimated what you&#8217;ve done. I should have said that you haven&#8217;t done anything I&#8217;ve seen, which of course doesn&#8217;t mean much.</p>
<p>I do think you&#8217;re beating down the wrong door here, though. I visit daily and GE fixes headlines and edits stories the moment he&#8217;s confronted with a discrepancy of any kind.  Blogs are supposed to provide commentary, and this site does that. If you want different commentary, or no commentary at all, go start that site.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13297</link>
		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so let&#039;s equate my online posts with true activism, shall we? Flawed off the bat. And second of all, where&#039;s my right to stay up late? Something I&#039;m missing here?

&quot;

Spence,
GE pushes news stories, which is sort of what blogs are supposed to do. If he gets it wrong, he fixes it. Youâ€™ve produced nothing, youâ€™re supporting a terrible candidate who may or may not be paying you, and youâ€™re bringing personalities into it.

Give it a rest.
&quot;

I&#039;m going to let you go. You obviously do not understand what a blog actually does, what this one claims it is supposed to be, and how often those fixes truly occur. Secondly, you have no idea of the actual time I&#039;ve put into supporting Ron Paul this past year. Such a terrible candidate, yes? No, I completely agree. In hindsight, he was terrible and completely ignorant of the harsh realities of politics. But well-versed in everything else. So I&#039;d appreciate it if you withdrew peaceably. 

Lastly, you&#039;re absolutely right. It&#039;s always been about personality from day one. How can you expect to keep well-informed on ALL aisles of the political scope when the more &quot;independent you go&quot;, the more simple standards like neutrality, transparency, and accuracy drop like flies. This guy sits here and defends it, and you are too. There is no excuse for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so let&#8217;s equate my online posts with true activism, shall we? Flawed off the bat. And second of all, where&#8217;s my right to stay up late? Something I&#8217;m missing here?</p>
<p>&#8221;</p>
<p>Spence,<br />
GE pushes news stories, which is sort of what blogs are supposed to do. If he gets it wrong, he fixes it. Youâ€™ve produced nothing, youâ€™re supporting a terrible candidate who may or may not be paying you, and youâ€™re bringing personalities into it.</p>
<p>Give it a rest.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to let you go. You obviously do not understand what a blog actually does, what this one claims it is supposed to be, and how often those fixes truly occur. Secondly, you have no idea of the actual time I&#8217;ve put into supporting Ron Paul this past year. Such a terrible candidate, yes? No, I completely agree. In hindsight, he was terrible and completely ignorant of the harsh realities of politics. But well-versed in everything else. So I&#8217;d appreciate it if you withdrew peaceably. </p>
<p>Lastly, you&#8217;re absolutely right. It&#8217;s always been about personality from day one. How can you expect to keep well-informed on ALL aisles of the political scope when the more &#8220;independent you go&#8221;, the more simple standards like neutrality, transparency, and accuracy drop like flies. This guy sits here and defends it, and you are too. There is no excuse for that.</p>
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		<title>By: MattSwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13292</link>
		<dc:creator>MattSwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spence,
GE pushes news stories, which is sort of what blogs are supposed to do. If he gets it wrong, he fixes it. You&#039;ve produced nothing, you&#039;re supporting a terrible candidate who may or may not be paying you, and you&#039;re bringing personalities into it.

Give it a rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spence,<br />
GE pushes news stories, which is sort of what blogs are supposed to do. If he gets it wrong, he fixes it. You&#8217;ve produced nothing, you&#8217;re supporting a terrible candidate who may or may not be paying you, and you&#8217;re bringing personalities into it.</p>
<p>Give it a rest.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13290</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spence, really, man... If you&#039;re 17... Don&#039;t you need to get up and go to school tomorrow? Even on the West Coast, it&#039;s getting late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spence, really, man&#8230; If you&#8217;re 17&#8230; Don&#8217;t you need to get up and go to school tomorrow? Even on the West Coast, it&#8217;s getting late.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13289</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have done as much libertarian activism as Robert Milnes. That was my point. Jeez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have done as much libertarian activism as Robert Milnes. That was my point. Jeez.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13288</link>
		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think comparing yourself with Milnes would be a bit more apt.</description>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ron-paul-asks-to-be-taken-off-montana-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-13287</link>
		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How hilarious of you, bringing things not relevant to this specific debate into play. Of course, that&#039;s how you &quot;operate&quot; isn&#039;t, G.E.? Fun to play isn&#039;t it, Captain Rabb? You&#039;re not the only one who can call names and fabricate statements. It&#039;s not such a small pond after all is it? 

But go on, keep telling yourself I&#039;m a Barr shill, while simultaneously decrying me as the new Robert Milnes. The two are polar opposites. But I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll &quot;lesson&quot; me soon. For instance, you completely missed the point that it is easy to accept what facts to believe and what not to. Then again, you do this on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How hilarious of you, bringing things not relevant to this specific debate into play. Of course, that&#8217;s how you &#8220;operate&#8221; isn&#8217;t, G.E.? Fun to play isn&#8217;t it, Captain Rabb? You&#8217;re not the only one who can call names and fabricate statements. It&#8217;s not such a small pond after all is it? </p>
<p>But go on, keep telling yourself I&#8217;m a Barr shill, while simultaneously decrying me as the new Robert Milnes. The two are polar opposites. But I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll &#8220;lesson&#8221; me soon. For instance, you completely missed the point that it is easy to accept what facts to believe and what not to. Then again, you do this on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have the right to delude yourself if you want. Sure. What are you talking about? I was on C-SPAN, sucka. You are a young Robert Milnes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have the right to delude yourself if you want. Sure. What are you talking about? I was on C-SPAN, sucka. You are a young Robert Milnes.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How am I not being practical? I want a coalition with other like-minded groups (C4L). What&#039;s impractical about that? It&#039;s Bob Barr who&#039;s impractical -- thinking HE is the &quot;leader&quot; of the Freedom Movement. Puh-lease. He&#039;s a statist thug unfit to lead anything except his wife to the abortion clinic, which he did.</description>
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