Comments on: Movement afoot to remove Barr/Root from LP ticket

By: G.E.

G.E. — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:30:38 +0000

The movement to remove Barr/Root has died. The one LNC member who expressed a willingness to represent his/her constituents and force this vote has backed out.

By: johncjackson

johncjackson — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:07:55 +0000

I Really don’t want Barr/Root to continue DILUTING the LP Brand.

By: George Phillies

George Phillies — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:44:31 +0000

The LNC member to ask is Rachel Hawkridge.

And the radical wing should then emphatically tell the other radicals to grow a spine or be disavowed.

By: Hugh Jass

Hugh Jass — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:03:05 +0000

Just a thought, but it might be better for the radical wing of the party that Barr stays on the ballot. If we were to replace Barr with a radical, then they would have to reap the mess in the voting booth that Barr has sewn. I think that Barr should have to reap what he has sewn.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:51:50 +0000

darolew – Inside info.

By: darolew

darolew — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:50:26 +0000

“Iâ€™m confident that someone will.”

Any particular reason for that? (It doesn’t seem likely to me…)

By: Thomas L. Knapp

Thomas L. Knapp — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:11:23 +0000

Quoth GE:

“If the LNC doesnâ€™t even contain two members willing to make this fight, then clearly, it is completely hopeless to continue on within the LP.”

Bingo.

Motions to remove/replace Barr/Root might fail for reasons other than their facial merits (i.e. “too late to substitute on ballots,” etc.), but the test of whether or not the LNC is serious about acting as the board of a political party is whether or not two people are willing to move/second motions to protect that party’s interests, and whether the majority is prepared to openly discuss/debate, and take a roll call vote on, those motions.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:10:38 +0000

Trent – Mary’s in a difficult positions since her making the motion would be perceived as sour grapes. Lee, too, as her campaign manager. And after the hell the LNC thugs dragged Angela Keaton through, no one has any right to ask anything of her, so she gets a pass. No, it will have to be someone else heroically stepping to the plate. I’m confident that someone will.

By: Galileo Galilei

Galileo Galilei — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:14:55 +0000

“I resigned my vice-chairmanship of my local LP because the chairman is an unrepentant Barr-barian and I will not work with him.”

GE;

That’s an interesting comment. The word ‘barbarian’ comes from the ancient Summerian word ‘bar-bar’, which means ‘foreigner’.

Bob Barr seems foreign to the Libertarian philosophy.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:14:20 +0000

Mary Ruwart, Lee Wrights, and Angela Keaton are the most likely to vote for such a motion. It’ll be easily killed though.

By: VTV

VTV — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:09:00 +0000

Jingozian could probably be persuaded. I have strong ties with Mike Gravel and the two were good friends, if Jingozian is not willing on his own I might be able to talk to Mike about it.

By: Tim in Ohio

Tim in Ohio — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:56:52 +0000

Ruwart? Keaton? I’m not familiar enough with the LNC to even know who MIGHT be sympathetic.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:48:12 +0000

If the LNC doesn’t even contain two members willing to make this fight, then clearly, it is completely hopeless to continue on within the LP.

By: VTV

VTV — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:30:35 +0000

Respectfully Ross, Barr being our nominee IS a nightmare.

By: Mike Gillis

Mike Gillis — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:54:29 +0000

Even if you fail to toss him off ballots, the LP making a public statement that they’re disavowing Barr would get A LOT of press.

By: Ross Levin

Ross Levin — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:53:22 +0000

I am an outsider, but in my opinion I still think it’s better to leave Barr on. The ballot access issues would be a nightmare, plus it is better to stay united as a party than to split in two over kicking Barr off or leaving him on. But, like I said, I’m an outsider.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:45:11 +0000

The petition has over 360 signatures already.

By: VTV

VTV — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:29:46 +0000

I don’t agree. The money used for ballot access belongs to the membership of the Libertarian party as a whole. Barr does not poll to have the majority of our party behind him. All his nomination proves is that he had a majority of delegates who were able to afford to get to Denver and vote. If he is grossly acting against our parties principles he should absolutely be removed.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:28:56 +0000

Says the outsider who doesn’t have to deal with the implications of the Barr/Root ticket being allowed to stand.

By: Ross Levin

Ross Levin — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:27:46 +0000

This is ridiculous. The LP needs to deal with the choices it made, keep its ballot access, and wait until 2010 (which is really more important than 2012, or at least it should be to the LP).