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	<title>Comments on: Motion to remove Barr as LP nominee has been written</title>
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		<title>By: carolm62</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/motion-to-remove-barr-as-lp-nominee-has-been-written/comment-page-4/#comment-14639</link>
		<dc:creator>carolm62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roberto,

I think that at most you could claim that Barr has been an INconsistent enemy of liberty.  He has many stances in his favor, so you gotta be careful what you write even if you do like hyperbole as a literary device.  :-)

In the interest of fairness towards all people, and in this case Barr, I have copied and pasted these from Liberty Maven&#039;s website:

&quot;In the 107th Congress when Ron Paul stood up for our sovereignty against the United Nations (Roll Call votes 245 and 246), it was Bob Barr who supported him â€¦ just as Barr supported Paul in cutting corporate welfare by limiting funding for the Export-Import Bank.â€

â€œBarr is a co-sponsor of H. Res. 197, â€˜Stop U.N. Gun Ban.â€™â€

â€œBarr supports H.R. 2615 â€˜Stop National Medical ID and the Patient Privacy Protection Act.â€™â€

â€œBarr is a leading defender of civil liberties. He introduced legislation that forces the National Security Agencyâ€™s Project ECHELON to provide a full accounting to the Congress of their covert monitoring of millions of phone calls, faxes, and emails.â€

â€œHe led the fight against National ID Card proposals and introduced legislation in 1998 to check the federal governmentâ€™s abuse of wire-tapping laws â€” including the use of roving wiretaps â€” and also opposed governmental interception of cellular phone calls.â€

â€œHe introduced legislation to mandate that the federal government issue â€˜Privacy Impact Statementsâ€™ every time it issues a new rule or regulation.â€

â€œHe was a chief sponsor of a law to limit abuses of the civil asset forfeiture statutes.â€

â€œHe fought against OSHA regulations and to limit small business vulnerability to frivolous labor litigation.â€

â€œHe is a board member of the National Rifle Association, and a staunch defender of the right of Americans to own and use firearms. He has introduced and sponsored legislation to block litigation against gun manufacturers for the acts of their customers and to limit any background checks and mandate they be conducted â€˜instantly.â€™â€

â€œBarr has succinctly advocated the principle that while criminals must be punished to the full extent of the law, their civil liberties must be protected with even more vigor.â€

â€œHe is a staunch defender of American sovereignty and opposes the executive branchâ€™s overzealous use of our military abroad he even filed suit against President Clintonâ€™s war in Kosovo without congressional approval.â€

â€œHe is a fierce critic of the United Nations â€” and to a lesser degree NATO â€” and has consistently supported efforts to withdraw U.S. membership from the United Nations.â€

â€œHe co-sponsored a committee amendment to withdraw the U.S. from the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.â€

â€œSince his first day in Congress back in 1995, Barr has tirelessly fought to eliminate the Internal Revenue Code, supported the â€œflat taxâ€ proposal, and consistently supported passage of a constitutional amendment requiring a two-thirds supermajority of Congress to raise taxes.â€

â€œHe was an early supporter of lowering the capital gains tax and recently he introduced legislation to provide tax credits for educators: public, private, and home school.â€

â€œMore than any other member of the Georgia delegation, Congressman Barr has parted with the Republican majority to vote against bloated â€œpork barrelâ€ spending.â€

â€œHe has continually fought the unconstitutional [McCain/Feingold] â€˜campaign finance reforms.â€™ Defending our fundamental rights, he has filed a lawsuit to prevent implementation of the recently passed legislation.â€


For the entire article, see:

http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/06/16/ron-paul-on-the-write-in-ron-paul-effort-and-what-about-bob-barr/1178/#comment-543</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberto,</p>
<p>I think that at most you could claim that Barr has been an INconsistent enemy of liberty.  He has many stances in his favor, so you gotta be careful what you write even if you do like hyperbole as a literary device.  <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the interest of fairness towards all people, and in this case Barr, I have copied and pasted these from Liberty Maven&#8217;s website:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the 107th Congress when Ron Paul stood up for our sovereignty against the United Nations (Roll Call votes 245 and 246), it was Bob Barr who supported him â€¦ just as Barr supported Paul in cutting corporate welfare by limiting funding for the Export-Import Bank.â€</p>
<p>â€œBarr is a co-sponsor of H. Res. 197, â€˜Stop U.N. Gun Ban.â€™â€</p>
<p>â€œBarr supports H.R. 2615 â€˜Stop National Medical ID and the Patient Privacy Protection Act.â€™â€</p>
<p>â€œBarr is a leading defender of civil liberties. He introduced legislation that forces the National Security Agencyâ€™s Project ECHELON to provide a full accounting to the Congress of their covert monitoring of millions of phone calls, faxes, and emails.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe led the fight against National ID Card proposals and introduced legislation in 1998 to check the federal governmentâ€™s abuse of wire-tapping laws â€” including the use of roving wiretaps â€” and also opposed governmental interception of cellular phone calls.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe introduced legislation to mandate that the federal government issue â€˜Privacy Impact Statementsâ€™ every time it issues a new rule or regulation.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe was a chief sponsor of a law to limit abuses of the civil asset forfeiture statutes.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe fought against OSHA regulations and to limit small business vulnerability to frivolous labor litigation.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe is a board member of the National Rifle Association, and a staunch defender of the right of Americans to own and use firearms. He has introduced and sponsored legislation to block litigation against gun manufacturers for the acts of their customers and to limit any background checks and mandate they be conducted â€˜instantly.â€™â€</p>
<p>â€œBarr has succinctly advocated the principle that while criminals must be punished to the full extent of the law, their civil liberties must be protected with even more vigor.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe is a staunch defender of American sovereignty and opposes the executive branchâ€™s overzealous use of our military abroad he even filed suit against President Clintonâ€™s war in Kosovo without congressional approval.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe is a fierce critic of the United Nations â€” and to a lesser degree NATO â€” and has consistently supported efforts to withdraw U.S. membership from the United Nations.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe co-sponsored a committee amendment to withdraw the U.S. from the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.â€</p>
<p>â€œSince his first day in Congress back in 1995, Barr has tirelessly fought to eliminate the Internal Revenue Code, supported the â€œflat taxâ€ proposal, and consistently supported passage of a constitutional amendment requiring a two-thirds supermajority of Congress to raise taxes.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe was an early supporter of lowering the capital gains tax and recently he introduced legislation to provide tax credits for educators: public, private, and home school.â€</p>
<p>â€œMore than any other member of the Georgia delegation, Congressman Barr has parted with the Republican majority to vote against bloated â€œpork barrelâ€ spending.â€</p>
<p>â€œHe has continually fought the unconstitutional [McCain/Feingold] â€˜campaign finance reforms.â€™ Defending our fundamental rights, he has filed a lawsuit to prevent implementation of the recently passed legislation.â€</p>
<p>For the entire article, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/06/16/ron-paul-on-the-write-in-ron-paul-effort-and-what-about-bob-barr/1178/#comment-543" rel="nofollow">http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/06/16/ron-paul-on-the-write-in-ron-paul-effort-and-what-about-bob-barr/1178/#comment-543</a></p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/motion-to-remove-barr-as-lp-nominee-has-been-written/comment-page-4/#comment-14126</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a wee-bit under half, actually: 49.7% of credentialed delegates voted for Barr on the final ballot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a wee-bit under half, actually: 49.7% of credentialed delegates voted for Barr on the final ballot.</p>
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		<title>By: hogarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>hogarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Since most Libertarians at Convention wanted Barr&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not sure that &#039;a wee bit over half&#039; really qualifies as &#039;most&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Since most Libertarians at Convention wanted Barr</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that &#8216;a wee bit over half&#8217; really qualifies as &#8216;most&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/motion-to-remove-barr-as-lp-nominee-has-been-written/comment-page-4/#comment-14122</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolm62 You are correct about people needing to be willing to Waste their vote for change to happen. 

I call it being willing to do the right thing, despite what others say.

I stand by my description of Barr as a consistent enemy of Liberty.

The War on Some Drugs has gutted the Bill of Rights more than any other thing, and Bob Barr was in the middle of it. 

There is simply no excuse for people voting for a man like Barr when Principled people who hold Our Principles are available.

Since most Libertarians at Convention wanted Barr, I must allow that they were just a gullible as are the Obama worshipers.

We get the State we deserve, it seems, for We have forgotten that We Are Government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolm62 You are correct about people needing to be willing to Waste their vote for change to happen. </p>
<p>I call it being willing to do the right thing, despite what others say.</p>
<p>I stand by my description of Barr as a consistent enemy of Liberty.</p>
<p>The War on Some Drugs has gutted the Bill of Rights more than any other thing, and Bob Barr was in the middle of it. </p>
<p>There is simply no excuse for people voting for a man like Barr when Principled people who hold Our Principles are available.</p>
<p>Since most Libertarians at Convention wanted Barr, I must allow that they were just a gullible as are the Obama worshipers.</p>
<p>We get the State we deserve, it seems, for We have forgotten that We Are Government.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Seebeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TWITs= Those With Intelligent Thoughts...</description>
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		<title>By: carolm62</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/motion-to-remove-barr-as-lp-nominee-has-been-written/comment-page-4/#comment-14084</link>
		<dc:creator>carolm62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have given my vote to whomever the Libertarian Party nominated this year -- so I have no personal investment in Bob Barr other than the time and money I have donated to his campaign.

I also donated to the campaigns of a few other Libertarians who were vying for the nomination, as at that point I didn&#039;t know much about them.  I wanted them to have the funds to publicize what they were about -- for my own benefit, sorta.

To brand Barr a &quot;consistent&quot; enemy of liberty &quot;all&quot; his life requires some distortions in cognition that lovers of liberty ought to be avoiding.  Barr&#039;s record does hold blemishes but it also holds some very positive contributions to liberty. To willfully ignore those contributions out of personal resentment is dishonest.

As much as I love Mary Ruwart (I read her book prior to joining the LP after the convention ) I think it unlikely that she would be pulling in the votes that Bob Barr is pulling.  

Even the most hostile of LP curmudgeons can possibly admit that Barr&#039;s time in Washington might have taught him SOMETHING about how to wend one&#039;s way through the system. Surely they can admit that he knows something about campaigning that they don&#039;t know!

The Libertarian Party IS gaining a higher percentage of the vote than has ever before occurred, so what are these folks complaining about exactly?  Is it upsetting to possibly lose their extreme fringe party status or something...?

I grew up in Canada where the Reform Party grew out of nothing to eventually wipe the Conservative party off the map for a season. Such things don&#039;t happen in one election but only after more and more voters become brave enough to &quot;waste&quot; their votes.  A party starts to gain traction only after it makes a significant showing .  

I would like to see the LP become a viable alternative.  That is not going to happen in one election so it doesn&#039;t matter who runs quite frankly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have given my vote to whomever the Libertarian Party nominated this year &#8212; so I have no personal investment in Bob Barr other than the time and money I have donated to his campaign.</p>
<p>I also donated to the campaigns of a few other Libertarians who were vying for the nomination, as at that point I didn&#8217;t know much about them.  I wanted them to have the funds to publicize what they were about &#8212; for my own benefit, sorta.</p>
<p>To brand Barr a &#8220;consistent&#8221; enemy of liberty &#8220;all&#8221; his life requires some distortions in cognition that lovers of liberty ought to be avoiding.  Barr&#8217;s record does hold blemishes but it also holds some very positive contributions to liberty. To willfully ignore those contributions out of personal resentment is dishonest.</p>
<p>As much as I love Mary Ruwart (I read her book prior to joining the LP after the convention ) I think it unlikely that she would be pulling in the votes that Bob Barr is pulling.  </p>
<p>Even the most hostile of LP curmudgeons can possibly admit that Barr&#8217;s time in Washington might have taught him SOMETHING about how to wend one&#8217;s way through the system. Surely they can admit that he knows something about campaigning that they don&#8217;t know!</p>
<p>The Libertarian Party IS gaining a higher percentage of the vote than has ever before occurred, so what are these folks complaining about exactly?  Is it upsetting to possibly lose their extreme fringe party status or something&#8230;?</p>
<p>I grew up in Canada where the Reform Party grew out of nothing to eventually wipe the Conservative party off the map for a season. Such things don&#8217;t happen in one election but only after more and more voters become brave enough to &#8220;waste&#8221; their votes.  A party starts to gain traction only after it makes a significant showing .  </p>
<p>I would like to see the LP become a viable alternative.  That is not going to happen in one election so it doesn&#8217;t matter who runs quite frankly.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People fell for Barr because of the whispering campaign started by the Foundations and the usual gang at The Watergate. 

Barr&#039;s job is to destroy the L.P. by sitting on his hands.

This time around, it&#039;s all about keeping the one Boot on Your Neck party alive and killing off the third party challengers.

The FIAT-Oil-Arms industry that feeds the vermin in the Beltway is at great risk and Nothing can get in the way of it&#039;s Survival so Barr was sent to insure that the LP did nothing spectacular. I submit to You that Barr has delivered.

The same hypnotic love crowds have for O&#039;bomber and Palin, the LP members  fell for in Barr by avoiding facts and gravitating to a promise of His power and experience while blindly forgetting Barr has been a consistent enemy of Liberty all his life.

I will vote for McKinney this time around.
At least She did her job as a Congressman by asking Rumsfeld and company the hard questions. She was the only one who did her job as far as I can tell, and as a result is the only person fit to occupy a higher office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People fell for Barr because of the whispering campaign started by the Foundations and the usual gang at The Watergate. </p>
<p>Barr&#8217;s job is to destroy the L.P. by sitting on his hands.</p>
<p>This time around, it&#8217;s all about keeping the one Boot on Your Neck party alive and killing off the third party challengers.</p>
<p>The FIAT-Oil-Arms industry that feeds the vermin in the Beltway is at great risk and Nothing can get in the way of it&#8217;s Survival so Barr was sent to insure that the LP did nothing spectacular. I submit to You that Barr has delivered.</p>
<p>The same hypnotic love crowds have for O&#8217;bomber and Palin, the LP members  fell for in Barr by avoiding facts and gravitating to a promise of His power and experience while blindly forgetting Barr has been a consistent enemy of Liberty all his life.</p>
<p>I will vote for McKinney this time around.<br />
At least She did her job as a Congressman by asking Rumsfeld and company the hard questions. She was the only one who did her job as far as I can tell, and as a result is the only person fit to occupy a higher office.</p>
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		<title>By: amyb31416</title>
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		<dc:creator>amyb31416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Slevin is a typical person in the Libertarian Party, that fully explains my frustrations with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Slevin is a typical person in the Libertarian Party, that fully explains my frustrations with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slevin, at least when you attack someone that harshly, you should make it clear that the person knows what yo u don&#039;t like about them... just a suggestion... 

Anyway, back on topic- it&#039;s pretty much too late for this to go anywhere and wouldn&#039;t save us if it did happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slevin, at least when you attack someone that harshly, you should make it clear that the person knows what yo u don&#8217;t like about them&#8230; just a suggestion&#8230; </p>
<p>Anyway, back on topic- it&#8217;s pretty much too late for this to go anywhere and wouldn&#8217;t save us if it did happen.</p>
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		<title>By: carolm62</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolm62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes, you guys!

Excuse my ignorance, as I have long been a loner in the political sphere and not a party hack, but is this type of exchange why Ron Paul decided he had to go back to the Republican Party and try to change it from within...?

Dunno. Enlighten me please....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes, you guys!</p>
<p>Excuse my ignorance, as I have long been a loner in the political sphere and not a party hack, but is this type of exchange why Ron Paul decided he had to go back to the Republican Party and try to change it from within&#8230;?</p>
<p>Dunno. Enlighten me please&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: VTV</title>
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		<dc:creator>VTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Slevin, take a look at this Libertarian trying to debate with people acting like you. Tell me if these people look smart to you? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHB2I83_N_k</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Slevin, take a look at this Libertarian trying to debate with people acting like you. Tell me if these people look smart to you? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHB2I83_N_k" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHB2I83_N_k</a></p>
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		<title>By: VTV</title>
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		<dc:creator>VTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, for those of you who thought the idea of a &quot;troll&quot; was silly. Look above at Mr. Slevin and get a perfect textbook example. It&#039;s one thing to dislike someone. Now he is reducing himself to the F bombs every other word that put him on par with a kid scribbling the word &quot;SHIT&quot; on a bathroom wall in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, for those of you who thought the idea of a &#8220;troll&#8221; was silly. Look above at Mr. Slevin and get a perfect textbook example. It&#8217;s one thing to dislike someone. Now he is reducing himself to the F bombs every other word that put him on par with a kid scribbling the word &#8220;SHIT&#8221; on a bathroom wall in school.</p>
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		<title>By: VTV</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/motion-to-remove-barr-as-lp-nominee-has-been-written/comment-page-4/#comment-13907</link>
		<dc:creator>VTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Shit, the IDIOT never even found us till just a few months AFTER Mary Ruwart decided to return her few to the fold.

Thatâ€™s the story. That is the truth.

Again, I ask for clarification. If ANYONE, ANYWHERE has truth to tell about Mary actually being a political force ANYWHERE, I will listen.&quot;

The accomplishment of Mary Ruwart and her supporters is this. Barr could not defeat her until Wayne Allyn Root sold out. Period. 

Oh, and FYI, USING capitol LETTERS every OTHER word DOES not MAKE your POINT any MORE valid. 

Also, all the personal insults you keep slinging are evidence of the weakness of your argument. 
Ad hominem is the last resort of the weak mind. (You may have to look that up. People who use words like TURDS in all capitol letters in a debate usually need some help with their vocabulary.) 

You keep saying G.E. is a Green, and he has already clarified that he left that party back in 2005. That&#039;s more then enough time to re-think one&#039;s values. Seriously. If you want to discredit him in a way that will actually make sense, stick to the facts. Not the lies. And not the TURDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Shit, the IDIOT never even found us till just a few months AFTER Mary Ruwart decided to return her few to the fold.</p>
<p>Thatâ€™s the story. That is the truth.</p>
<p>Again, I ask for clarification. If ANYONE, ANYWHERE has truth to tell about Mary actually being a political force ANYWHERE, I will listen.&#8221;</p>
<p>The accomplishment of Mary Ruwart and her supporters is this. Barr could not defeat her until Wayne Allyn Root sold out. Period. </p>
<p>Oh, and FYI, USING capitol LETTERS every OTHER word DOES not MAKE your POINT any MORE valid. </p>
<p>Also, all the personal insults you keep slinging are evidence of the weakness of your argument.<br />
Ad hominem is the last resort of the weak mind. (You may have to look that up. People who use words like TURDS in all capitol letters in a debate usually need some help with their vocabulary.) </p>
<p>You keep saying G.E. is a Green, and he has already clarified that he left that party back in 2005. That&#8217;s more then enough time to re-think one&#8217;s values. Seriously. If you want to discredit him in a way that will actually make sense, stick to the facts. Not the lies. And not the TURDS.</p>
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		<title>By: John P Slevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, you got a blog.  Fuck you. Fuck you G.E.  You stand for nothing.  You haven&#039;t the balls even tio mention you name.  You slime others who have names.  You attempt to dirty their names in your dirty business.

I know nothing of you except of your writing and from the photos I&#039;ve seen of you (cause I know your real name).

You&#039;ve done nothing, and you could stand to lose ALOT of weight.

Why don&#039;t you stay out of politics.  You have nothing to offer those of us who practice principle.

You have none.  You&#039;ve exhibited none.  You have none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, you got a blog.  Fuck you. Fuck you G.E.  You stand for nothing.  You haven&#8217;t the balls even tio mention you name.  You slime others who have names.  You attempt to dirty their names in your dirty business.</p>
<p>I know nothing of you except of your writing and from the photos I&#8217;ve seen of you (cause I know your real name).</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve done nothing, and you could stand to lose ALOT of weight.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you stay out of politics.  You have nothing to offer those of us who practice principle.</p>
<p>You have none.  You&#8217;ve exhibited none.  You have none.</p>
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		<title>By: John P Slevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, and again, and again the turds sprout.  Like I say, it&#039;s just like out of the manure field.  People like G.E. come from that.  They have no principle, no record.  AND, in the case of G.E., they add enmity.

Who comes into a group and slimes everyone there?

G.E. does. 

I speak for almost EVERY LP person who says, to you G.E., Mr. Jason Seagreaves, just who the FUCK are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, and again, and again the turds sprout.  Like I say, it&#8217;s just like out of the manure field.  People like G.E. come from that.  They have no principle, no record.  AND, in the case of G.E., they add enmity.</p>
<p>Who comes into a group and slimes everyone there?</p>
<p>G.E. does. </p>
<p>I speak for almost EVERY LP person who says, to you G.E., Mr. Jason Seagreaves, just who the FUCK are you?</p>
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		<dc:creator>John P Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Trent, tell me how I lie.

I NEVER would dirty myself to attend an actual LP convention today.  I&#039;ve put slime like the LP wants on the ballot, and I&#039;ve done it all over this country, but I DO NOT attend conventions (did it last in &#039;96, cause they had to give me money to go do some more states for them).

I have NO use for that kind of thing.  Never did.  Some of us work for liberty and some hold titles...still others, the REALLY WORTHLESS, write books, like Mary.

Then there are people like G.E.  The ones who follow the REALLY WORTHLESS authors....

Goddamn.  What a spectacle.

I urge anyone, ANYONE, who wants to know why Libertarians don&#039;t get enough votes to watch the nominating speech of one Jason Seagraves for Mary Ruwart.

What a bleepin joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Trent, tell me how I lie.</p>
<p>I NEVER would dirty myself to attend an actual LP convention today.  I&#8217;ve put slime like the LP wants on the ballot, and I&#8217;ve done it all over this country, but I DO NOT attend conventions (did it last in &#8217;96, cause they had to give me money to go do some more states for them).</p>
<p>I have NO use for that kind of thing.  Never did.  Some of us work for liberty and some hold titles&#8230;still others, the REALLY WORTHLESS, write books, like Mary.</p>
<p>Then there are people like G.E.  The ones who follow the REALLY WORTHLESS authors&#8230;.</p>
<p>Goddamn.  What a spectacle.</p>
<p>I urge anyone, ANYONE, who wants to know why Libertarians don&#8217;t get enough votes to watch the nominating speech of one Jason Seagraves for Mary Ruwart.</p>
<p>What a bleepin joke.</p>
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		<dc:creator>John P Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And TWIT G.E slimes away, feeling ANYONE who doesn&#039;t exactly agree with him is some kind of &quot;neo-con&quot;, a term only a tinfoil hat idiot uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And TWIT G.E slimes away, feeling ANYONE who doesn&#8217;t exactly agree with him is some kind of &#8220;neo-con&#8221;, a term only a tinfoil hat idiot uses.</p>
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		<title>By: carolm62</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolm62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here we go again....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here we go again&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>John P Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.E. is NO different than the kind of Barr people he opposes.  I&#039;ll again point to the Keaton thing.  These people, like Ruwart/Barr/Gordon, Davis, Redpath, etc, have NO principles.

WHEN will people learn that?

Only a FOOL would think that an actual presidential candidate would choose for her nominating speaker someone like G.E.  The IDIOT won&#039;t even use his real name in public...Yeah, that&#039;s the speaker I want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.E. is NO different than the kind of Barr people he opposes.  I&#8217;ll again point to the Keaton thing.  These people, like Ruwart/Barr/Gordon, Davis, Redpath, etc, have NO principles.</p>
<p>WHEN will people learn that?</p>
<p>Only a FOOL would think that an actual presidential candidate would choose for her nominating speaker someone like G.E.  The IDIOT won&#8217;t even use his real name in public&#8230;Yeah, that&#8217;s the speaker I want.</p>
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		<dc:creator>John P Slevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was absolutely as much principle in Mary denouncing the LP candidate after she lost a close vote as in Bob barr denouncing Ron Paul because RP people wouldn&#039;t rent the mailing list at all/or at a decent price.

Idiots like G.E. take these things to mean principle is at stake.

Show me some of Mary&#039;s princple.

What EVER has she done...ANYWHERE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was absolutely as much principle in Mary denouncing the LP candidate after she lost a close vote as in Bob barr denouncing Ron Paul because RP people wouldn&#8217;t rent the mailing list at all/or at a decent price.</p>
<p>Idiots like G.E. take these things to mean principle is at stake.</p>
<p>Show me some of Mary&#8217;s princple.</p>
<p>What EVER has she done&#8230;ANYWHERE?</p>
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