Comments on: George Phillies analyzes Barr campaign’s spending

By: George Phillies

George Phillies — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:18:38 +0000

Browne did not raise 5 million. For actual numbers, read my book Funding Liberty, available from Third Millennium http://3mpub.com/phillies

In 2000, Browne raised 1 million post-nomination, meaning he roughly tied–actually he was slightly behind–Badnarik.

How you spend the money matters.

By: VTV

VTV — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:01:26 +0000

Sent paulie

By: songster7

songster7 — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:59:24 +0000

Deja vu all over again … most of the money is being spent on consultants and travel expenses (limousines, etc.) … The only difference is, when Browne did that, it was out of about $5 million raised (1996, IIRC), not the one mil BobBarf has managed so far from his allegedly deep pocketed colleagues …

Bottom line: It may be not much to spend for a Presidential campaign; however it is excessive
for one as low-dollar as this has been …

As for stiffing the petitioners in WV (and the other side-stories, embezzlement, etc.) … plus ca change …

So glad I’m a BTP elector

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:06:13 +0000

G.E. Quotes a message I cannot find here:

Come on, George. I said it was from an email from David Nolan.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:13:35 +0000

Email sent to the address you used for that comment. Subject: cannoli

By: VTV

VTV — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:08:04 +0000

paulie cannoli can you please give me an email to send you those details to? The person informing would rather not be publicly known at the moment.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:53:51 +0000

I think paulie wanted a link.

That’s what I meant, but the explanation is good enough, thanks.

By: George Phillies

George Phillies — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:43:08 +0000

G.E. Quotes a message I cannot find here:

“These are pretty much chicken feed for a Presidential campaign.”

Well, no. These are totally off the top of the chart for a Libertarian campaign, and appear to set new records for amounts paid.

” Bovard is a good libertarian with established credentials. If he wrote much for the
campaign, the $15K was probably well-spent. ”

Let us see some impact analysis.

“Bandow is pretty sharp and respectable too,”

For a contrary opinion http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Doug_Bandow

” so $10K is not a lot for his skills, if he did much â€¦
although I wonder if he was consulted before some of their bonehead moves.”

$10K a month is more than the campaign chair or associate chair appear to be being paid.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:44:13 +0000

It was from an email.

By: darolew

darolew — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:42:50 +0000

I think paulie wanted a link.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:25:11 +0000

Where?

I pasted his comments.

By: TheOriginalAndy

TheOriginalAndy — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:07:48 +0000

The petition to put Bob Barr on the ballot ended on August 1st. I know that vetran Libertarian petitioner Jake Witmer just got paid from the West Virginia petition drive last week, the only thing was that they stiffed him out of $900 in pay.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:03:56 +0000

David Nolan defends Barrâ€™s expenditures here:

Where?

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:02:43 +0000

Recently I have been given information that states that Matt Hariss, the LP Chairman was embezzling funds from the WV LP. An email was supposed to be sent to the LP about this.

Please CC me. Or just post it here.

I wonder if that has anything to do with it?

Highly unlikely, since the money went through the Barr campaign, not the WVLP.

Well between that and stabbing his wife recently, one would have to wonder if he would fit in.

Details?

I do know that he ran off with your [ex] wife, but beyond that this is the first I am hearing of any of this.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:42:09 +0000

David Nolan defends Barr’s expenditures here:

These are pretty much chicken feed for a Presidential campaign. Bovard is a
good libertarian with established credentials. If he wrote much for the
campaign, the $15K was probably well-spent. Bandow is pretty sharp and
respectable too, so $10K is not a lot for his skills, if he did much …
although I wonder if he was consulted before some of their bonehead moves.

FFT