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Cynthia McKinney says 5,000 black men were suspiciously murdered during Hurricane Katrina

According to McKinney, the names of 5,000 black men who disappeared during Hurricane Katrina are contained in a Pentagon computer. She claims the men were prisoners whose bodies were dumped in a swamp.

35 Comments

  1. libertariangirl November 5, 2009

    agreed.

  2. TC November 5, 2009

    If Cynthia McKinny would magically disappear, the average IQ of the entire USA would rise at least 5 points.

  3. GoogleNorthwoods September 19, 2009

    Why would she make this up? Anyone who badmouths her is a disinfo agent. Of course the government is going to throw aspersions at wshistleblowers!

  4. G.E. September 30, 2008

    Brian Holtz – I’m still upset that you apparently took my characterization of you as a “heroic capitalist” as an insult. Can’t you take a compliment? WTF?

  5. G.E. September 30, 2008

    Mike – Not true at all. I’m saying they’re sycophants if they automatically discount the allegations; not if they simply fail to believe them.

  6. Mike Gillis September 30, 2008

    “I’m not making a claim as to whether or not McKinney’s allegations are true. ”

    No, but you imply it. And you also imply that someone is a tool of state propaganda if they don’t immediately believe it without question.

  7. ElfNinosMom September 30, 2008

    Unless there is some evidence that 5000 men are missing, I have to question the veracity of Ms. McKinney’s claims. I’m not saying that she is lying. I am saying that you can’t believe everything you are told, especially something of that nature which should be verifiable to some extent if it were true.

    Besides, if the government wanted to rid itself of 5000 black men following Katrina, they’d drown them, not shoot them. After all, no one would question it if it looked as though they were victims of Katrina, so no cover-up would be needed at all.

    The story simply doesn’t make sense.

  8. G.E. September 30, 2008

    Sodomizing a thirteen-year-old girl and slitting her throat on a pig farm doesn’t make Ted Bundy a “child molester”?

    The state IS responsible for all evil in the world.

    I’m not making a claim as to whether or not McKinney’s allegations are true.

    The criminal gang known as the government does not have the right of presumed innocence.

  9. Mike Gillis September 30, 2008

    When someone makes a claim, it’s not the job of skeptics to prove them wrong. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

    I’m all ears for McKinney to provide that proof. But simply stating something as self evident fact and insulting people who don’t immediately buy into it is just unbecoming of a presidential candidate and intellectually lazy.

    And from what I see, it seems a bit of a stretch.

  10. Mike Gillis September 30, 2008

    “Yes, because the government didn’t commit any types of crimes during Katrina, and doesn’t have a documented history of abusing black men; performing experiments on them, etc. All made up stuff, right?”

    Yes, all of that happened.

    G.E., you really need to back off of extremist manichean thinking. It’s not all black and white. You do this when the topic is 9/11 and you’re doing it now.

    You have to apply critical thought, rather than putting an opinion into two ironclad categories.

    With what I’ve seen, you seem to say either a person believes:

    1.) “the government has done some really nasty things in the past, therefore, I will immediately believe that they’re responsible for ALL nasty things, whether or not there is any evidence that said things have even happened.”

    2.) “You’re a total government shill and therefore because you just to apply skepticism instead of just blind belief on a whim.

    You seem to refuse to accept a number 3.

    3.) “Yes, the government has committed some atrocities, but I have to use reason first instead of jumping the gun. I will see if the evidence backs up these claims before believing them.

    It’s like, Ted Bundy was clearly a murderer, but I need more evidence before immediately and blindly believing that he was also say… a cannibal or a child molester.

  11. Trent Hill September 30, 2008

    On a different note, I just finished re-reading Robert Heinlein’s The Moon is a Harsh Mistress—great book.

  12. Jeremy Young September 30, 2008

    GE, there’s a difference between reflexively dismissing McKinney’s claims (which I will not do) and saying that making such claims as FACT is unbecoming of a Presidential candidate (which I will gladly do).

    It’s sad, too, because except for my views on foreign policy, I’m basically in agreement with the Green Party on just about everything. After Obama is elected, I’m planning to get more involved with third party politics, and I’d really like to be able to join the Green Party — but I can’t support someone like McKinney.

  13. Steven R Linnabary September 30, 2008

    This story does provide evidence that McKinney is menatlly unstable.

    Or, she is trying to tap into the widespread conspiracy(s) that have swept the black community (AIDS, prisons instead of schools, etc. Have you seen the movie “Barber Shop”?) and the rest of America.

    Whether they are true or not, I always cringe when a Libertarian is given a microphone and they start talking about 9/11 or secret government gas chambers or huge new secret concentration camps.

    That said, I prefer to think she is merely fanning the flames, not really believing.

    PEACE

  14. darolew September 30, 2008

    In the absence of evidence, assume the negative. Lacking (quality) evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, assume it wasn’t. Lacking evidence of god(s), assume there is/are none. Lacking evidence of 5000 black men murdered without a trace, assume it didn’t happen. And so on.

  15. Coming Back to the LP September 30, 2008

    It should be dismissed on the face of it because NO Family and no individual has come forward claiming that any relative of theirs is missing.

    5000 dead and no one is missing.

    There are thousands of nonsense stories floating around the world and you have to have the intellegence to dismiss them.

    Evidence. Show us ONE piece of evidence.

    This story does provide evidence that McKinney is menatlly unstable.

  16. G.E. September 30, 2008

    I’m still waiting for a good reason why this claim should be dismissed on the face of it. Sunshinebatman makes a good point above.

  17. sunshinebatman September 30, 2008

    FEMA has refused to release to Louisiana information they have about where they “relocated” a couple hundred thousand people. 5 to 10,000 of those people could easily be dead and no one would know the difference. McKinney is probably incorrect in assuming these were prisoners, though. That would actually be easier to track.

  18. Coming Back to the LP September 30, 2008

    GE,

    There are real government conspiracies and horrendous acts of fascist-socialist tyrrany.

    Then there are wackos who make crazy claims like this one and the “truthers.”

    You have to maintain your reason and objectivity in order to discern the truth.

  19. svf September 30, 2008

    For three years, we have offered $1000 to the first case where a relative has complained of an unaccounted-for soldier who is not on the list of deaths.

    Reminds me a little of this…

    http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

  20. antiwar September 30, 2008

    At Antiwar.com, we often get inquiries about an internet rumor that many thousands of US soldiers are being killed and those deaths aren’t reported.

    For three years, we have offered $1000 to the first case where a relative has complained of an unaccounted-for soldier who is not on the list of deaths. We have never received one application.

    The same test should be applied here. Can McKinney supply a single case of a prisoner who has disappeared?

    I am not saying her claim is untrue, but a single case of a relative making such a complaint would go a long way to affirming her credibility.

  21. G.E. September 30, 2008

    Jesus, you bootlickers make me sick.

    I’m not saying her story is valid: I’m saying only sycophants for the state — the usual suspects collected here — reflexively dismiss reports of government wrongdoing and say things like “it doesn’t mean ALL governments ALWAYS do bad things.”

    Are you kidding me?

  22. G.E. September 30, 2008

    You’re right. The Tuskegee experiments are just some kook conspiracy, because obviously, the families would have talked and the media would have listened and the whole thing would have exploded!

  23. AnthonyD September 30, 2008

    Of course, the fact that some governments have done bad things in the past, or even that ALL governments have done some bad things in the past, does not mean that ALL government ALWAYS do bad things.

    Either provide some evidence of 5,000 dead african-americans, or join RP and the troofers in fantasyland.

  24. svf September 30, 2008

    So… the families of these 5,000 black men have apparently been dumped in a swamp also, right… ? or perhaps they are being “rehabilitated” in an underground bunker in Area 51… right…?

    right.

  25. G.E. September 30, 2008

    Yes, because the government didn’t commit any types of crimes during Katrina, and doesn’t have a documented history of abusing black men; performing experiments on them, etc. All made up stuff, right?

  26. paulie cannoli Post author | September 30, 2008

    Hush your mouth. Bob Barr’s going to get 40 million votes.

  27. mattc September 30, 2008

    and they would still get more votes than Barr

  28. AnthonyD September 30, 2008

    Maybe she should contact Ron Paul and ask him if he would be her V.P. nominee. They could run on the Kook/Conspriacy Theory ticket.

  29. rockyreidel September 30, 2008

    Geez! The Green Party has really lost it this time. I mean I thought Nader was bad. . .

    I wonder if the white hippie faction will take the Green Party back over in the next election cycle.

    ~Rocky

  30. svf September 30, 2008

    wow…

    just wow…

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