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	<title>Comments on: La Riva talks South Ossetia on Russia Today</title>
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		<title>By: DesiArnez6</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-11111</link>
		<dc:creator>DesiArnez6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thatâ€™s pretty implausible. Do you have any idea exactly how unfree North Korea is? Itâ€™s rather impossible to be worse than that.&quot;

I can think of a few examples... Equatorial Guinea, Turkmenistan, Libya, Myanmar

North Korea may not be &quot;Great&quot; or &quot;Free&quot;, but there are many places that I would LESS want to live. I mean really, would you rather be a poor person in &quot;free, capitalist Haiti&quot; or a poor person in &quot;restricted, communist North Korea&quot;? How about being poor in &quot;free,  capitalist, Guatemala?&quot; sound appealing?

La Riva was right on with Russia Georgia situation. I hope that anyone who is not in a swing state votes for her so that her party reaches 5% and is eligible for federal matching funds as an official &quot;minor party&quot;.

As long as my state isn&#039;t close between 2 major candidates, swing state, I will ALWAYS vote my conscience, after all its the Electoral College that decides this thing in a winner take all, Which means pretty much that a vote for La Riva in a non swing state is about = to a vote for McCain in D.C and a vote for Obama in Utah which = no effect on the election, in fact the only states that &quot;matter&quot; are the swing states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thatâ€™s pretty implausible. Do you have any idea exactly how unfree North Korea is? Itâ€™s rather impossible to be worse than that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can think of a few examples&#8230; Equatorial Guinea, Turkmenistan, Libya, Myanmar</p>
<p>North Korea may not be &#8220;Great&#8221; or &#8220;Free&#8221;, but there are many places that I would LESS want to live. I mean really, would you rather be a poor person in &#8220;free, capitalist Haiti&#8221; or a poor person in &#8220;restricted, communist North Korea&#8221;? How about being poor in &#8220;free,  capitalist, Guatemala?&#8221; sound appealing?</p>
<p>La Riva was right on with Russia Georgia situation. I hope that anyone who is not in a swing state votes for her so that her party reaches 5% and is eligible for federal matching funds as an official &#8220;minor party&#8221;.</p>
<p>As long as my state isn&#8217;t close between 2 major candidates, swing state, I will ALWAYS vote my conscience, after all its the Electoral College that decides this thing in a winner take all, Which means pretty much that a vote for La Riva in a non swing state is about = to a vote for McCain in D.C and a vote for Obama in Utah which = no effect on the election, in fact the only states that &#8220;matter&#8221; are the swing states.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10109</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, now... You&#039;re just stroking my ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, now&#8230; You&#8217;re just stroking my ego.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10108</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do I get the impression that G.E. is the reincarnation of Murray Rothbard circa 1968?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I get the impression that G.E. is the reincarnation of Murray Rothbard circa 1968?</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10075</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are being naive in your reactionary defense of the Evil U.S. Empire. Sure, states like North Korea and maybe even China and Russia are more repressive against their own people. But who perpetrates the most evil in the world? The U.S. can afford to allow its citizens &quot;freedom&quot; for the time being, but if you think they would not turn the same force they use against the brown people of the world against you and yours, if need be, you&#039;re wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are being naive in your reactionary defense of the Evil U.S. Empire. Sure, states like North Korea and maybe even China and Russia are more repressive against their own people. But who perpetrates the most evil in the world? The U.S. can afford to allow its citizens &#8220;freedom&#8221; for the time being, but if you think they would not turn the same force they use against the brown people of the world against you and yours, if need be, you&#8217;re wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10072</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GE,

I had firefox on my old laptop--whose motherboard recently took a nosedive--just havent re-downloaded it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GE,</p>
<p>I had firefox on my old laptop&#8211;whose motherboard recently took a nosedive&#8211;just havent re-downloaded it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10071</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....

This is the internet, so I dont know if you&#039;re kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.</p>
<p>This is the internet, so I dont know if you&#8217;re kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10070</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent - You should use Mozilla Firefox, which will underline your rediculously mispelet werdz! :)

Or, you can get EnsoWords, which is a great program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent &#8211; You should use Mozilla Firefox, which will underline your rediculously mispelet werdz! <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Or, you can get EnsoWords, which is a great program.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10069</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole &quot;North Korea is a bad place to live&quot; junk is just neocon propaganda. Last I hear, every citizen got a free iPod and the reason N.K. is really shut out is because, in violation of the IMF, they have a gold-backed currency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole &#8220;North Korea is a bad place to live&#8221; junk is just neocon propaganda. Last I hear, every citizen got a free iPod and the reason N.K. is really shut out is because, in violation of the IMF, they have a gold-backed currency.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10067</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>darolew,

Damn. And I even have a spellchecker plugin for WordPress. *shrug*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>darolew,</p>
<p>Damn. And I even have a spellchecker plugin for WordPress. *shrug*</p>
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		<title>By: darolew</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10066</link>
		<dc:creator>darolew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...rediculous...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This is getting old, Trent. It&#039;s &quot;r&lt;strong&gt;i&lt;/strong&gt;diculous&quot;.  With an &quot;i&quot;.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Also, it is shackling its citizens and future citizens with debt that will make the U.S. far less free, domestically, than even North Korea.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s pretty implausible. Do you have any idea exactly how unfree North Korea is? It&#039;s rather impossible to be worse than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;rediculous&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This is getting old, Trent. It&#8217;s &#8220;r<strong>i</strong>diculous&#8221;.  With an &#8220;i&#8221;.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Also, it is shackling its citizens and future citizens with debt that will make the U.S. far less free, domestically, than even North Korea.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty implausible. Do you have any idea exactly how unfree North Korea is? It&#8217;s rather impossible to be worse than that.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10050</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, the great Darcy Richardson supported Harry Browne in &#039;96, Ralph Nader in 2000, Walt Brown in &#039;04, and is supporting Charles Jay in &#039;08. Murray Rothbard went from Strom Thurmond to Adlai Stevenson to the Peace and Freedom Party to Pat Buchanan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the great Darcy Richardson supported Harry Browne in &#8217;96, Ralph Nader in 2000, Walt Brown in &#8217;04, and is supporting Charles Jay in &#8217;08. Murray Rothbard went from Strom Thurmond to Adlai Stevenson to the Peace and Freedom Party to Pat Buchanan.</p>
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		<title>By: Deran</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10012</link>
		<dc:creator>Deran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem with La Riva and co. (including the Workers World Party they split from), is that as supposed &quot;real existing socialist&quot; (ie, Stalinist) states have fallen apart, this element of the US Left has had to grasp further and further into fantasy land to find excuses for supporting Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.

It is part of the internal logic of these sorts of Marxist-Leninist vangaurdist parties to need affiliation with some alleged socialist homeland, or at least the appearance of such, or the fond memory of such; as in the case of the USSR.

Completely turning a blind eye to the atrocities and authoritarianism of these regimes. Criticizing these regimes in no way compromises a persons ethical ability to criticize the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem with La Riva and co. (including the Workers World Party they split from), is that as supposed &#8220;real existing socialist&#8221; (ie, Stalinist) states have fallen apart, this element of the US Left has had to grasp further and further into fantasy land to find excuses for supporting Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.</p>
<p>It is part of the internal logic of these sorts of Marxist-Leninist vangaurdist parties to need affiliation with some alleged socialist homeland, or at least the appearance of such, or the fond memory of such; as in the case of the USSR.</p>
<p>Completely turning a blind eye to the atrocities and authoritarianism of these regimes. Criticizing these regimes in no way compromises a persons ethical ability to criticize the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: darren</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10011</link>
		<dc:creator>darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the sound of one hand clapping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the sound of one hand clapping.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-10005</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh - I&#039;m showing up to vote for Scotty Boman and other real libertarians. It seems lame to not bother voting for president. Mike Gillis has suggested that I write in &quot;FUCK YOU!&quot; which is narrowly leading Baldwin in my internal primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh &#8211; I&#8217;m showing up to vote for Scotty Boman and other real libertarians. It seems lame to not bother voting for president. Mike Gillis has suggested that I write in &#8220;FUCK YOU!&#8221; which is narrowly leading Baldwin in my internal primary.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-9994</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.E., why not be a good anarchist and not vote at all, if none of the candidates please you. Or, how about you drink a dangerous amount of alcohol before you go into the voting booth, and let your drunkenness decide for you? Or, how about you let each number on a roulette wheel represent a candidate/option, and whatever number comes up, exercise that option. The choices could be like this:

1=McCain
2=Obama
3-6=Barr
7-9=Nader
10-14=Baldwin
15-17=McKinney
18-23=Write-In: Ron Paul
24-29=Write-In: Charles Jay
30-36=Write-In: Fuck You
0 and 00=Don&#039;t Vote</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.E., why not be a good anarchist and not vote at all, if none of the candidates please you. Or, how about you drink a dangerous amount of alcohol before you go into the voting booth, and let your drunkenness decide for you? Or, how about you let each number on a roulette wheel represent a candidate/option, and whatever number comes up, exercise that option. The choices could be like this:</p>
<p>1=McCain<br />
2=Obama<br />
3-6=Barr<br />
7-9=Nader<br />
10-14=Baldwin<br />
15-17=McKinney<br />
18-23=Write-In: Ron Paul<br />
24-29=Write-In: Charles Jay<br />
30-36=Write-In: Fuck You<br />
0 and 00=Don&#8217;t Vote</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gillis</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-9992</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gillis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, whatever my differences with Chuck Baldwin, the only way I think he could be comparable to Milnes would be if he actually DID &quot;dash his head against rocks&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, whatever my differences with Chuck Baldwin, the only way I think he could be comparable to Milnes would be if he actually DID &#8220;dash his head against rocks&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-9990</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading Don Quixote. He goes off into the woods and decides to dash his head against rocks, tear his clothes off and scatter his armor, etc. This is what I feel like doing given my choices. If Baldwin could have not come out pro-T.R. (like Robert Milnes), I would have felt much better about voting for him. So now, I feel like making a reverse protest vote and voting major party in protest of how bad the minor-party candidates are. Maybe I&#039;ll do the ultimate unthinkable and vote for McCain as a protest against the U.S. nation-state, which will surely never see another presidential election if the neocons win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading Don Quixote. He goes off into the woods and decides to dash his head against rocks, tear his clothes off and scatter his armor, etc. This is what I feel like doing given my choices. If Baldwin could have not come out pro-T.R. (like Robert Milnes), I would have felt much better about voting for him. So now, I feel like making a reverse protest vote and voting major party in protest of how bad the minor-party candidates are. Maybe I&#8217;ll do the ultimate unthinkable and vote for McCain as a protest against the U.S. nation-state, which will surely never see another presidential election if the neocons win.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-9988</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did, just wanted you to admit to it. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did, just wanted you to admit to it. =)</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-9986</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would I consider voting for McKinney? Because Barr is a tool and Baldwin irritates me, and I&#039;m an impossible-to-please a-hole. I thought you knew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would I consider voting for McKinney? Because Barr is a tool and Baldwin irritates me, and I&#8217;m an impossible-to-please a-hole. I thought you knew.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/la-riva-talks-south-ossetia-on-russia-today/comment-page-1/#comment-9985</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U.S. is the worst in regards to foreign policy. Also, it is shackling its citizens and future citizens with debt that will make the U.S. far less free, domestically, than even North Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U.S. is the worst in regards to foreign policy. Also, it is shackling its citizens and future citizens with debt that will make the U.S. far less free, domestically, than even North Korea.</p>
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