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	<title>Comments on: Barr campaign to file suit against Saddleback Church</title>
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		<title>By: wordleman</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9391</link>
		<dc:creator>wordleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the 5000+ seats that were available, less than 250 seats were sold. That is, 95% were given FREE to Saddleback Volunteers. I was one of the fortunate ones to be given a FREE ticket. The mere 250 seats that were sold were mainly to outsiders, and done so for the sole purpose of helping to defray the enormous costs in making this forum available to a national audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the 5000+ seats that were available, less than 250 seats were sold. That is, 95% were given FREE to Saddleback Volunteers. I was one of the fortunate ones to be given a FREE ticket. The mere 250 seats that were sold were mainly to outsiders, and done so for the sole purpose of helping to defray the enormous costs in making this forum available to a national audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Church Ortiz</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9373</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Church Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you darolew.  Besides casting aside principle, another sign of desperation is rash decisions.  Exactly what kind of reaction is this supposed to elicit?  If he&#039;s courting Evangelicals, how does suing a church help? If he&#039;s courting anti-McCain conservatives, how does invoking McCain-Feingold help?  WHO was this supposed to appeal to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you darolew.  Besides casting aside principle, another sign of desperation is rash decisions.  Exactly what kind of reaction is this supposed to elicit?  If he&#8217;s courting Evangelicals, how does suing a church help? If he&#8217;s courting anti-McCain conservatives, how does invoking McCain-Feingold help?  WHO was this supposed to appeal to?</p>
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		<title>By: darolew</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9371</link>
		<dc:creator>darolew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that the Barr campaign is feeling pretty desperate at this point, and thus doesn&#039;t really give a damn about principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that the Barr campaign is feeling pretty desperate at this point, and thus doesn&#8217;t really give a damn about principle.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9364</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, how statist will Barr go before the end of this election?

I&#039;m guessing he comes out for some sort of national healthcare or guaranteed income or both.

Maybe he&#039;ll flip-flop on the socialist border wall at one of these upcoming Xenophobe rallies he&#039;s attending with Baldwin and Keyes.

Everytime he does something completely unforgivable, he ups the ante and does something even worse the next week.

THANK YOU, DeFraud Caucus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, how statist will Barr go before the end of this election?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing he comes out for some sort of national healthcare or guaranteed income or both.</p>
<p>Maybe he&#8217;ll flip-flop on the socialist border wall at one of these upcoming Xenophobe rallies he&#8217;s attending with Baldwin and Keyes.</p>
<p>Everytime he does something completely unforgivable, he ups the ante and does something even worse the next week.</p>
<p>THANK YOU, DeFraud Caucus!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cole</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9362</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After I heard in 2006 that Barr had joined the party and instantly been catapulted to a seat on the LNC, I shook my head in shame. But I hoped that he would at least have gotten an education on what the non-intervention principle means in the political realm. This news demonstrates that he clearly hasn&#039;t. It is beyond me how any Libertarian, much less the most-visible Libertarian of all, can sue a private organization under the pestilential &quot;campaign finance&quot; laws. I spend so much time advocating for the free-speech and associational rights of even the most-contemptible groups, e.g., the KKK, and then he undermines it all with this sh*t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After I heard in 2006 that Barr had joined the party and instantly been catapulted to a seat on the LNC, I shook my head in shame. But I hoped that he would at least have gotten an education on what the non-intervention principle means in the political realm. This news demonstrates that he clearly hasn&#8217;t. It is beyond me how any Libertarian, much less the most-visible Libertarian of all, can sue a private organization under the pestilential &#8220;campaign finance&#8221; laws. I spend so much time advocating for the free-speech and associational rights of even the most-contemptible groups, e.g., the KKK, and then he undermines it all with this sh*t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9360</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barr uses his anti libertarian legalize nonsense once again.  It&#039;s nauseating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barr uses his anti libertarian legalize nonsense once again.  It&#8217;s nauseating.</p>
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		<title>By: NewFederalist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9359</link>
		<dc:creator>NewFederalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.E.- I didn&#039;t know you disliked THE REVEREND Al Sharpton so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.E.- I didn&#8217;t know you disliked THE REVEREND Al Sharpton so much!</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9358</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to the AJC thread and look at the horrible statist &quot;libertarians&quot;  make their case for taking away the church&#039;s tax-exempt status if they don&#039;t comply with Barr&#039;s threats.

Bob Barr is like an NAACP conman huckster. He&#039;s a white Al Sharpton shaking down this church with the government&#039;s guns at his side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to the AJC thread and look at the horrible statist &#8220;libertarians&#8221;  make their case for taking away the church&#8217;s tax-exempt status if they don&#8217;t comply with Barr&#8217;s threats.</p>
<p>Bob Barr is like an NAACP conman huckster. He&#8217;s a white Al Sharpton shaking down this church with the government&#8217;s guns at his side.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Church Ortiz</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9357</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Church Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJC post/thread:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/08/15/barr_goes_to_court_to_demand_e.html

LFV post/thread:
http://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/bob-barr-to-sue-church-while-lying-about-polling-at-6-quick-whats-wrong-with-that-picture/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJC post/thread:<br />
<a href="http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/08/15/barr_goes_to_court_to_demand_e.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/08/15/barr_goes_to_court_to_demand_e.html</a></p>
<p>LFV post/thread:<br />
<a href="http://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/bob-barr-to-sue-church-while-lying-about-polling-at-6-quick-whats-wrong-with-that-picture/" rel="nofollow">http://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/bob-barr-to-sue-church-while-lying-about-polling-at-6-quick-whats-wrong-with-that-picture/</a></p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9356</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to see Barr&#039;s usual cast of cronies come through and defend this overt act of statist thuggery. Come on, sunshinebatman, svf, Gene Trosper, etc. Tell me how this is really the libertarian thing to do; to sue a CHURCH over not getting an invite. I can&#039;t believe Barr would go this low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see Barr&#8217;s usual cast of cronies come through and defend this overt act of statist thuggery. Come on, sunshinebatman, svf, Gene Trosper, etc. Tell me how this is really the libertarian thing to do; to sue a CHURCH over not getting an invite. I can&#8217;t believe Barr would go this low.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9355</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wont. This is downright shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wont. This is downright shameful.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9354</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me boil down this story to its essence:

&lt;b&gt;Bob Barr wants to use the government&#039;s guns to force his way into a private debate.&lt;/b&gt;

Disgrace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me boil down this story to its essence:</p>
<p><b>Bob Barr wants to use the government&#8217;s guns to force his way into a private debate.</b></p>
<p>Disgrace!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Church Ortiz</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9353</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Church Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel kind of dizzy, and may be bleeding internally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel kind of dizzy, and may be bleeding internally.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9352</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally unlibertarian.

If I would have stayed with Barr after Jesse Helms, after his flip flop on global warming and praise for Al Gore, and after his refusal to participate in debates with other third-party candidates, then THIS would have done it.

Bob Barr is a disgrace to the LP, to libertarianism, and anyone who can still support his candidacy after this... I&#039;ll hold my tongue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally unlibertarian.</p>
<p>If I would have stayed with Barr after Jesse Helms, after his flip flop on global warming and praise for Al Gore, and after his refusal to participate in debates with other third-party candidates, then THIS would have done it.</p>
<p>Bob Barr is a disgrace to the LP, to libertarianism, and anyone who can still support his candidacy after this&#8230; I&#8217;ll hold my tongue.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/08/barr-campaign-to-file-suit-against-saddleback-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9350</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barr SHOULD&#039;VE taken this opportunity to announce his opposition to such rediculous laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barr SHOULD&#8217;VE taken this opportunity to announce his opposition to such rediculous laws.</p>
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