At the time those comments were written by Barr and Baldwin, Barr was a congressman and Baldwin was a reverand. It is no wonder they had such contrasting responses.

Baldwin is also the Constitution Party’s candidate, so he must pander a bit to its conservative base. While Baldwin can not keep from talking like a reverand, expect that in terms of policy, he would run a Ron Paul-like administration.

While I am a libertarian and strictly want government to stay out of social issues, I can see where Baldwin might be coming from with the “normalization” comment. I get very frustrated when I see people try to be so extremely politically correct. I also get disgusted when I see that an apparent majority of politicians and celebrities are sexual deviants.

I find a conservative who is honestly moral and seeking genuine constitutional and democratic solutions to be refreshing in comparison to neocons who act conservative to pander to those voters, but are in fact dishonest to their wives, perverted, and stuck on domestic and foreign policies that are anything but “pro-life.”

Chuck is far from perfect, but I do think he is one of the best options available to us this November. I would call him the “lesser of two goods” (Baldwin and Jay), rather than the “lesser of countless evils” (almost everybody else from a my perspective).

Baldwin is also the best candidate who “can win.” I dare to make that argument only because he is one of only a few candidates with the ballot access to make it possible.

I prefer Charles Jay.

LRC posted a link to this playlist earlier, which only includes RP’s speech, and from a much further angle. Audio seems about the same.

Is there a part 2 here to hear the rest from Ron Paul?

Spending — I know I heard Barr say on C-SPAN late last night that he would immediately cut the EOP budget by 10%. I assumed I also heard him talk about similar measures for the rest of the govt, but I may be mistaken. I’ll doublecheck later. Do you have a cite for your contention?

(I don’t find any ignorance in his comments about the Fed, but whatever.)

Barr was a CIA man and still is. That’s the way it works.

You are lying or wrong RE: 9/11. He has come out against a new investigation and he refused to participate in the Libertarians for Justice forum (just like every other forum that wasn’t rigged).

Barr is for making abortion illegal even though he paid to murder his own unborn baby.

He says he would immediately freeze the budget at the as-of-yet-undetermined-but-higher fiscal 2009 level. That’s what he said. I didn’t make it up.

The CP’s nationalism is post-Lincolnian. The founders saw themselves as citizens of their states, not the United States.

There are so many logical contradictions within the CP of this nature. They’re supposedly anti-Lincoln and yet they embrace his nationalism and mercantilism — the very subjects over which the Civil War was fought!

- Barr has denounced the Fed Reserve in this campaign.

- Barr was not in the operations directorate of the CIA. He was an entry-level analyst working thru grad school and law school, and spent some time as a legeslative counsel after he had his law degree. (Aside: Michael Scheuer was in the CIA at least 3x as long and got a good reception at the RP rally.)

- Barr hasn’t campaigned against any new investigation of 9/11, and has expressed openess to prosecuting Bush officials for crimes. He has obviously dodged the issue, however.

- Barr isn’t for any new federal abortion legislation at all.

- He’s been campaigning on immediate spending cuts not freezes.

But it was totally asinine that the LP didn’t bother to have some kind of presence there. They could have put up a table with soe literature and bumper stickers or something. Pathetic.

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