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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul vs. Bob Barr on Fannie/Freddie</title>
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		<title>By: niceguyeddie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/07/ron-paul-vs-bob-barr-on-fanniefreddie/comment-page-1/#comment-7163</link>
		<dc:creator>niceguyeddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bailout = Redistribution of wealth = socialism 

but then again WHY not just have the taxpayers pay a bailout (ehem an investment) tax.  I mean why invest and take risks just give the government the money outright and let them in their omniscience declare where everyones investment dollars should be placed to yield a maximum socialistic affect on the otherwise free markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bailout = Redistribution of wealth = socialism </p>
<p>but then again WHY not just have the taxpayers pay a bailout (ehem an investment) tax.  I mean why invest and take risks just give the government the money outright and let them in their omniscience declare where everyones investment dollars should be placed to yield a maximum socialistic affect on the otherwise free markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Habit4ming</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/07/ron-paul-vs-bob-barr-on-fanniefreddie/comment-page-1/#comment-6176</link>
		<dc:creator>Habit4ming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barr tried to hijack Ron Paul supporters BEFORE Dr. Paul suspended his campaign; Barr has already flip-flopped on global warming; Ron Paul is an economics expert, Barr is not; Barr voted for the Patriot Act, et cetera....
McCain = Obama = Barr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barr tried to hijack Ron Paul supporters BEFORE Dr. Paul suspended his campaign; Barr has already flip-flopped on global warming; Ron Paul is an economics expert, Barr is not; Barr voted for the Patriot Act, et cetera&#8230;.<br />
McCain = Obama = Barr</p>
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		<title>By: Steve LaBianca</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/07/ron-paul-vs-bob-barr-on-fanniefreddie/comment-page-1/#comment-5809</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve LaBianca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this transcript of Barr on Neil Cavuto three days ago:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,382881,00.html

Barr says &quot;because the government has caused this problem, . . . it has to do something.&quot;

AND,

&quot;I think, though, that, if we â€” we have some â€” some temporary line of credit â€” and I think it&#039;s important to do this through the Congress, so Congress understands and has a stake in this as well.&quot;

AND,

&quot;But the ultimate goal, I think, has to be a very firm commitment to restructure Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.&quot;

As opposed to Ron Paul, let it fail.  Ron Paul, a seasoned student of the Mises economics KNOWS, more intervention is just reason for more and more and so on . . . Barr simply doesn&#039;t know how to be anything other than  give the political solution . . .  bail them out!  Barr either doesn&#039;t know economics, or simply doesn&#039;t have the cojones to cave into politically expedient solutions.  Either way, he sucks!

Keep up the good work GE.   The Barr supporters are getting pretty scared that their guy is screwing up big time, and they are scrambling to do damage control!  

As I have said SO many times, Ron Paul is not perfect, but you Mr. Barr, are no Ron Paul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this transcript of Barr on Neil Cavuto three days ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,382881,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,382881,00.html</a></p>
<p>Barr says &#8220;because the government has caused this problem, . . . it has to do something.&#8221;</p>
<p>AND,</p>
<p>&#8220;I think, though, that, if we â€” we have some â€” some temporary line of credit â€” and I think it&#8217;s important to do this through the Congress, so Congress understands and has a stake in this as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>AND,</p>
<p>&#8220;But the ultimate goal, I think, has to be a very firm commitment to restructure Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.&#8221;</p>
<p>As opposed to Ron Paul, let it fail.  Ron Paul, a seasoned student of the Mises economics KNOWS, more intervention is just reason for more and more and so on . . . Barr simply doesn&#8217;t know how to be anything other than  give the political solution . . .  bail them out!  Barr either doesn&#8217;t know economics, or simply doesn&#8217;t have the cojones to cave into politically expedient solutions.  Either way, he sucks!</p>
<p>Keep up the good work GE.   The Barr supporters are getting pretty scared that their guy is screwing up big time, and they are scrambling to do damage control!  </p>
<p>As I have said SO many times, Ron Paul is not perfect, but you Mr. Barr, are no Ron Paul!</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/07/ron-paul-vs-bob-barr-on-fanniefreddie/comment-page-1/#comment-5805</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would a bail out do anything other than prop up the stock price?

Fannie and Freddie, absent government intervention, are destined for share prices of $0.

Tell me, professor, where I&#039;m wrong and Barr is right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would a bail out do anything other than prop up the stock price?</p>
<p>Fannie and Freddie, absent government intervention, are destined for share prices of $0.</p>
<p>Tell me, professor, where I&#8217;m wrong and Barr is right.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woolsey</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/07/ron-paul-vs-bob-barr-on-fanniefreddie/comment-page-1/#comment-5801</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Woolsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.E. claims that Bob Barr advocated having the government prop up the stock of Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac.  I was puzzled by this.  

He links to another article by him.   In that article there is a quote from Barr.  Nowhere in that quote did Barr advocate proping up the stock of Fanny Mae or Freddy Mac.

I suspect the problem is a mixture of G.E. not understanding the issues involved, blind hatred of Bob Barr causing him to attribute the worst motives to Barr, and perhaps, a little black propaganda.   

If this site is to have any pretence of being a serious source of news, G.E. needs to learn a little self control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.E. claims that Bob Barr advocated having the government prop up the stock of Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac.  I was puzzled by this.  </p>
<p>He links to another article by him.   In that article there is a quote from Barr.  Nowhere in that quote did Barr advocate proping up the stock of Fanny Mae or Freddy Mac.</p>
<p>I suspect the problem is a mixture of G.E. not understanding the issues involved, blind hatred of Bob Barr causing him to attribute the worst motives to Barr, and perhaps, a little black propaganda.   </p>
<p>If this site is to have any pretence of being a serious source of news, G.E. needs to learn a little self control.</p>
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		<title>By: Deran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree these corporations should not receive a government bailouts; the who &quot;secondary mortgage&quot; industry should be renationalized. Speculation in housing, like speculation in utilities and food are dangerous in that they create social chaos. And social chaos leads to the popularity of neo-fascism or neo-maoism among the desperate. And unless you want each person an armed fortress (I pro-gun rights, even though I&#039;m very leftist), I would think exacerbating chaos is just going to make things worse for all of us? 

I completely accept that the current federal government is no great shakes, but in the US system, if we could eliminate the control of politics by the multinationals -- it seems better then to have stabilization on a federal level, than just predation and rapacious profiteering?

This is why I support McKinney and Nader on this issue. They don&#039;t want to increase people&#039;s misery, but they don&#039;t want to waste money bailing out these for-profit enterprises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree these corporations should not receive a government bailouts; the who &#8220;secondary mortgage&#8221; industry should be renationalized. Speculation in housing, like speculation in utilities and food are dangerous in that they create social chaos. And social chaos leads to the popularity of neo-fascism or neo-maoism among the desperate. And unless you want each person an armed fortress (I pro-gun rights, even though I&#8217;m very leftist), I would think exacerbating chaos is just going to make things worse for all of us? </p>
<p>I completely accept that the current federal government is no great shakes, but in the US system, if we could eliminate the control of politics by the multinationals &#8212; it seems better then to have stabilization on a federal level, than just predation and rapacious profiteering?</p>
<p>This is why I support McKinney and Nader on this issue. They don&#8217;t want to increase people&#8217;s misery, but they don&#8217;t want to waste money bailing out these for-profit enterprises.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/07/ron-paul-vs-bob-barr-on-fanniefreddie/comment-page-1/#comment-5781</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;maybe he wansâ€™t invitedâ€¦? maybe he had a prior commitment at FreedomFest in Las Vegasâ€¦? maybe his campaign would rather not be assocaited with 9/11 Truthers and Moral Majority Christian Conservatives?&quot;

Barr WAS invite, and he turned it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;maybe he wansâ€™t invitedâ€¦? maybe he had a prior commitment at FreedomFest in Las Vegasâ€¦? maybe his campaign would rather not be assocaited with 9/11 Truthers and Moral Majority Christian Conservatives?&#8221;</p>
<p>Barr WAS invite, and he turned it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry S.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/07/ron-paul-vs-bob-barr-on-fanniefreddie/comment-page-1/#comment-5767</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on now!

http://baldwin08.com/files/Momsticker.pdf

You won&#039;t see any of these for Mr. Barr.
Mr.Barr didn&#039;t get an invitation to the D.C. event, Dr. BaldWIN did. I still say we shouldn&#039;t waste time attacking fellow third party members, attack the Ds and Rs they DESERVE IT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34AwnfgYhk&amp;feature=user

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_k3yvqESlY&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on now!</p>
<p><a href="http://baldwin08.com/files/Momsticker.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://baldwin08.com/files/Momsticker.pdf</a></p>
<p>You won&#8217;t see any of these for Mr. Barr.<br />
Mr.Barr didn&#8217;t get an invitation to the D.C. event, Dr. BaldWIN did. I still say we shouldn&#8217;t waste time attacking fellow third party members, attack the Ds and Rs they DESERVE IT!<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34AwnfgYhk&#038;feature=user" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34AwnfgYhk&#038;feature=user</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_k3yvqESlY&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_k3yvqESlY&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/07/ron-paul-vs-bob-barr-on-fanniefreddie/comment-page-1/#comment-5761</link>
		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>svf - I think it is newsworthy that Ron Paul&#039;s response to this &quot;crisis&quot; is infinitely more libertarian than the &quot;solution&quot; offered by Bob Barr. It is relevant because Barr is trying to position himself as the &quot;new Ron Paul&quot; -- stroll over to TPW if you think that&#039;s not the case. It is. And therefore, his failure to attend the Revolution March -- a flub for which the campaign manager should be fired, says non-anti-Barrista Chuck Moulton -- is also relevant in supporting this story that Barr is failing in his efforts to convert the Revolution to his cause.

As for TPW bashing -- they&#039;re stealing our content. How is saying so &quot;bashing&quot;?

If you&#039;d prefer to get your news from the Barr-owned media mill known as TPW, no one is stopping you. We&#039;d appreciate your continued readership. But we will continue to cover Barr&#039;s deviations from libertarianism, and if you&#039;d prefer to never read a negative thing about Barr, TPW gives you that opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>svf &#8211; I think it is newsworthy that Ron Paul&#8217;s response to this &#8220;crisis&#8221; is infinitely more libertarian than the &#8220;solution&#8221; offered by Bob Barr. It is relevant because Barr is trying to position himself as the &#8220;new Ron Paul&#8221; &#8212; stroll over to TPW if you think that&#8217;s not the case. It is. And therefore, his failure to attend the Revolution March &#8212; a flub for which the campaign manager should be fired, says non-anti-Barrista Chuck Moulton &#8212; is also relevant in supporting this story that Barr is failing in his efforts to convert the Revolution to his cause.</p>
<p>As for TPW bashing &#8212; they&#8217;re stealing our content. How is saying so &#8220;bashing&#8221;?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d prefer to get your news from the Barr-owned media mill known as TPW, no one is stopping you. We&#8217;d appreciate your continued readership. But we will continue to cover Barr&#8217;s deviations from libertarianism, and if you&#8217;d prefer to never read a negative thing about Barr, TPW gives you that opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason_Gatties</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason_Gatties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me, there are way more than 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me, there are way more than 5</p>
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		<title>By: svf</title>
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		<dc:creator>svf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, I&#039;m over the edge...

So I&#039;ve been lurking for awhile here, really appreciated your LP convention coverage, etc.  

But ever since, you&#039;ve lost any credibility and integrity you once had.   

This post is just the latest example, capped off by this little nugget...

&quot; Bob Barr failed to attend Ron Paulâ€™s Revolution March in D.C. &quot;

maybe he wans&#039;t invited...? maybe he had a prior commitment at FreedomFest in Las Vegas...?  maybe his campaign would rather not be assocaited with 9/11 Truthers and Moral Majority Christian Conservatives?   

Everything you post about Barr on this site is dripping with derision and disgust, selectively highlighting over and over and over again the &quot;news&quot; about him that you find distasteful. 

This COULD be the best source for balanced and inclusive 3rd party information on the web. But your glaring biases will apparently prevent that from ever happening, not to mention your pathetic TPW bashing.   

You can beat TPW with QUALITY and impartial CONTENT, without resorting to whiny name-calling.  

Jesus, man!  Save the snark and the petty attacks for the comment section.  The five anti-Barristas who visit this site hourly will not let you down, I assure you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, I&#8217;m over the edge&#8230;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve been lurking for awhile here, really appreciated your LP convention coverage, etc.  </p>
<p>But ever since, you&#8217;ve lost any credibility and integrity you once had.   </p>
<p>This post is just the latest example, capped off by this little nugget&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8221; Bob Barr failed to attend Ron Paulâ€™s Revolution March in D.C. &#8221;</p>
<p>maybe he wans&#8217;t invited&#8230;? maybe he had a prior commitment at FreedomFest in Las Vegas&#8230;?  maybe his campaign would rather not be assocaited with 9/11 Truthers and Moral Majority Christian Conservatives?   </p>
<p>Everything you post about Barr on this site is dripping with derision and disgust, selectively highlighting over and over and over again the &#8220;news&#8221; about him that you find distasteful. </p>
<p>This COULD be the best source for balanced and inclusive 3rd party information on the web. But your glaring biases will apparently prevent that from ever happening, not to mention your pathetic TPW bashing.   </p>
<p>You can beat TPW with QUALITY and impartial CONTENT, without resorting to whiny name-calling.  </p>
<p>Jesus, man!  Save the snark and the petty attacks for the comment section.  The five anti-Barristas who visit this site hourly will not let you down, I assure you.</p>
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		<title>By: aynrkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>aynrkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Republican is following the libertarian line, and the Libertarian is following the republican line.  Priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Republican is following the libertarian line, and the Libertarian is following the republican line.  Priceless.</p>
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