Comments on: McKinney talks about Barr

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:50:08 +0000

If you go on Wikimapia, it shows you where the ship sank. Now using basic measuring technology (ruler), Sable Island was 600 miles away from the sink site.
There is no way IN HELL that the Titanic could have reached 20 miles, nonetheless 600.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:38:06 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sable_Island

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:31:04 +0000

Wikipedia: Sable Island. I tried to put up link but comment didn’t post. Off the coast of Newfoundland.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:27:37 +0000

I KNEW IT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sable_Island This should have been known by the Titanic officers.

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:34:04 +0000

Just because it was the closest land mass, doesn’t make it a stones throw away. You underestimate the magnitude of Oceans.

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:32:13 +0000

Robert, there were no ratios recorded to my knowledge of the amount pumped out. Because it is common knowledge that they were useless. They were running and it didn’t do anything. With 5 compartments filled with water, there was no way the ship couldn’t have gone down.
Repair crews? Should they have tried to seal it? Even though the 5 compartments were filled almost immediately? Even if they had modern day scuba gear, due to the fact that the water was seeping above the doors, the pressure of the entering water would have pinned them.
Your bucket brigades would have put more souls in the way of the water. Even if all the passengers worked at it, they wouldn’t be able to scoop all the water out for the few days required to get to land. Note that at that point, there was no way to organize that many passengers.
Robert, that water is deep. Really, really deep. There weren’t any hills, or shoals, or islands. Just miles and miles below the surface.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:31:18 +0000

Run it aground! The closer to Newfoundland the closer to the continental shelf. Draft 34’6′. http://www.titanic-nautical.com/titanic-facts.php

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:16:51 +0000

At what rate was water leaking in v. rate pumped out? + how much effect by repair crews? & bucket brigades. + any closer land or shallows/sandbars? Beach that boat!

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:14:51 +0000

The numbers were supposed to be under the designated area.

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:14:20 +0000

Hole is a relative term.

Ship |||| Atlantic Ocean

1 2 3

Something went wrong with 2, allowing 3 to flow into 1. Call it what you wish, but that’s about the size of it.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:08:21 +0000

@450 miles to NYC. @375 to Newfoundland. @25 mph max. speed. There was no hole! Buckling of the hull & riveted plates (watertight seal) & bulkhead damage.

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:38:14 +0000

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Titanicmap2.png

Ships were slower then. Especially when they were filling up with thousands of gallons of water. Water is heavy, if you haven’t noticed.
You see the next red line in front of where the ship sinks (in the picture)? I don’t think the ship could have gotten that far in 2 1/2 hours without a hole in starboard.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:32:28 +0000

Interesting year 1912.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:25:34 +0000

Let’s consult some contemporary 1912 navigation charts & figure where the nearest land (beach), shallows, shoals or sandbars are to Titanic’s present location. Could it have made it there at full steam? i.e. is it too late for the gp & lp to form a fusion ticket & get on almost all ballots?

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:05:00 +0000

I can’t even keep the Titanic from sinking after hitting the iceberg/keep the GP & LP from losing after nominating McKinney & Barr, without critics & detractors changing the subject.

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:49:19 +0000

Oh, wasn’t that Murdock, not Murdoch?

By: Fred Church Ortiz

Fred Church Ortiz — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:40:34 +0000

Don’t you mean the A-Team? Easy to get those two confused.

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:22:56 +0000

Ummm….
What?

By: Peter Orvetti

Peter Orvetti — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:17:36 +0000

When did the kid from “Growing Pains” show up on deck?

By: Mike Theodore

Mike Theodore — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:19:08 +0000

Bad choice of wording. The impact threw water into 5 compartments on the starboard side. I’ve heard something about the rivets, but I never looked into that. First Officer Murdoch ordered the ship to stop once they saw the iceberg. Of course, it couldn’t stop in time.
Once it did stop, it was certain it would sink. If the ship went forward, the water would have sprayed back into the ship instead of a gradual leak. The water would flow over the compartment doors, and the pumps would just be pumping out water that kept coming in.