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Just out of curiosity …. did the person who wrote that grand all-caps declaration also by chance declare himself “Grand Poobah”?

Even so, I don’t see her as being pro-corporate. No candidate is solid on every plank. She does seem genuinely open to learning more about what makes Greens tick so to speak, so while she may not currently be a “small is beautiful” type, maybe with time she will become more interested in Shumacher’s economic ideas and Illich’s ideas on schooling and energy and Ghandi’s ideas on nationalism and violence, but for today I am willing to believe that she is ours from head to toe. She brought her entire family to Chicago to stand with her, father, mother, son and more, so she’s as Green as they get as far as I am concerned. We can address details later, and I am sure we will.

I also don’t use the term “greenies” negatively, as I am often defending false opinions that are given to you. Most there think you guys are idiots and “control the Democrats” which I point out is completely incorrect. Greens actually oppose the war, Patriot Act, and corporate subsidies.

Thanks for addressing my concerns as you know more about the inner workings of the GP much better than I ever will. Most of what I posted was opinion, and should be treated as such.

Jared

For example, you write that Pat LaMarche urged supporters to vote for Kerry. yes and no. What she did was say something like “If I lived in a close state, I’d vote for Kerry.” This was more in the way of explaining the disastrous “Safe States” strategy than an actual request to vote for Kerry, but as I said, that might be splitting hairs.

I don’t that many Greens are anti-second amendment. Like many Republicans and democrats, there are Greens who believe in fairly onerous gun control policies, but I believe that most Greens support the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right guaranteed by the Constitution. Don’t forget that a decent number of our membership and leadership is either a former Black Panther Party member or supporter, or has studied and developed an appreciation for what they did. remember, the BPP’s real name was the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, and they were often seen with guns. I know this frightens lots of white folks, but why should it scare us when Black folks have guns if we don’t care when white folks have guns?

I also don’t agree that Greens are anti-freedom in our economic policy, but I figure that is again splitting hairs. To me, Green economics is not based on government control and manipulation as much as it is based on the principle that “Small is beautiful” and that centralization is bad. Therefore, if you want to open a bakery, Greens would want you to be able to do so with as little government interference as possible. However, if you want to open a nuclear power plant, well, we had better talk.

I’m not saying that there are not socialists and communists in the Green Party, there are. They are also there in the Republican and Democratic parties. They just don’t step out into the open in the other parties. And that one is 100% opinion that I can not prove at all.

Your observation of how we “Greenies” feel about the Conn campaign is very close to spot on as far as I am concerned, and I am sure many Greens would agree. BTW, I don’t care for “Greenies” I guess because it’s so close to “Meanies” and we all know they were blue, not green.

Finally, I again believe that Green economics is not Marxist, but an entirely different take on the situation. We live on a finite planet with limited resources, including clear air and water. Socialist or capitalist, an economic system that does not address that fundamental fact faces crisis sooner rather than later.

Thank you for your response and keep up the good work.

Thanks. I noted from your first post that you were putting on asbestos underpants, so I did expect to be unable to break through to the more set-in-their-ways folks, but hoped that the casual reader might see my message and look at the actual platform etc.

I also noted that you said that you were not a Green, but thought that a fuller discussion was in order. That is part of what I hoped to do. Not so much for the people who post there as for the lurker.

I appreciate very much the ping back. Please do so as often as you like. ~Smile~ We had a banner day today at GPW, with more than 500 hits by day’s end and more than 1900 page views. Nothing compared to what G.E. and the usual gang of idiots here get away with, but not too bad for us.

BTW G.E….thanks. When I am asked for a good Libertarian to go on a FOX talking head show, I’ll mention your name.

Shhhh…don’t tell G.E., but FOX doesn’t call me any more. Not since that run in with Jeff Foxworthy…

These are the posts I made and if information I posted was inaccurate please feel free to refute it and I will edit my posts:
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=31027471&postcount=1
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=31027811&postcount=6
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=31028011&postcount=8
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=31028141&postcount=10
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=31028671&postcount=14

I understand that most people there are clueless but I get along with some of them. I thought it would be nice getting some information for them to look up if interested from good sources like GPW and IPR especially since I’m sure most of them think that Ralph Nader was a Green Party nominee.

I’ve also had my own run-ins with mods there, and have been banned more than a couple times (rules are made up on the spot there, everything is at mod discretion)…

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I know your not laughing, Gregg, but what do you expect from them?