Comments on: IPR Exclusive: Chuck Baldwin makes his case to disgruntled libertarians

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By: G.E.

G.E. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:36:02 +0000

Ron Paul was on C-SPAN2 today, and there is NO DOUBT that his view on abortion is VERY DIFFERENT from that of Baldwin’s.

He was 100% explicit in saying he was AGAINST a federal solution. No ambiguity whatsoever.

By: TheOriginalAndy

TheOriginalAndy — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:26:46 +0000

Bob Barr’s support for the FairTax is (or was, I haven’t checked it recently) on his campaign website.

By: TheOriginalAndy

TheOriginalAndy — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:15:11 +0000

“Baldwin seems to, scratch that, Baldwin does not understand the self-correcting nature of free markets. He doesnâ€™t seem to understand the folly of central planning â€” i.e. his arbitrary 10% tariff and his centrally planned immigration quotas.

Iâ€™m not saying the guy is unredeemable or not worth voting for. Iâ€™m just pointing out his flaws for the sake of balance.”

Paulie and GE, I NEVER said that Baldwin is perfect or that he is a hardcore libertarian. My point is that compared to the other candidates in the race who will be on enough state ballots to theoretically win the election (McCain, Obama, Barr, Nader, and McKinney), that Baldwin is probably the best, as in the least toxic.

Believe me, I’d RATHER vote for a Libertarian Party candidate for President as I voted for Harry Browne in 1996 and 2000 and for Michael Badnarik in 2004. I just see Bob Barr as being a flawed candidate, flawed to the point where he is probably less libertarian and less trustworthy than Chuck Baldwin.

As I said above, I think that Paulie is chosing style over substance in reguards to his comments about not considering Baldwin when he is considering McKinney (and I say this as someone who actually LIKES McKinney for a leftist Green). Going issue for issue, Baldwin is clearly the better choice.

Baldwin opposes the war in Iraq and an interventionist foreign policy in general.

Baldwin wants to repeal the Patriot Act.

Baldwin wants to shut down the Federal Reserve and return to a sound money policy.

Baldwin wants to get rid of the income tax and replace it with nothing.

Baldwin wants to get the government out of Social Security. (Just imagine never being asked for a Social(ist) (In)Security Number again.)

Baldwin wants to repeal gun control laws.

Baldwin wants to end the welfare state.

These are all big issues and Baldwin is on the proper (from a pro-liberty perspective) side of them.

While I like Cynthia McKinney for a leftist-Green, I could go through her platform and pick out some things that I disagree with as well, such as her disasterous anti-free market healthcare and minimum wage plans (both of which Baldwin opposes).

Believe me, I’d rather vote for a Harry Browne or a Michael Badnarik or an Aaron Russo or a Ron Paul, or for that matter, a Mary Ruwart or a Steve Kubby, however, since none of them are going to be on the ballot, and since Chuck Baldwin will be on the ballot, and since the other choices of candidates on the ballot are going to be John McCain, Barack Obama, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, and Cynthia McKinney, I have got to consider Chuck Baldwin to be a viable option if I am going to vote this November.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:09:44 +0000

Marzullo – Hmm… What’s worse? The tax with the rebate or the ultra-regressive tax without the rebate? We already tax the poor through inflation (which Barr has NOTHING to say about), let’s tax them on food and diapers too! VERY libertarian!

FairTax with rebate = biggest welfare plan in U.S. history

FairTax without rebate = biggest redistribution of tax burden from rich to poor since feudalism

Either way, FairTax = suck

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:41:31 +0000

I’ve read plenty enough about DOMA to know it is an evil act. To cite just one of endless examples

http://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/jim-casarjian-perry/

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:30:54 +0000

Yes, we are the most generous nation in the world. And that is an understatement.

What makes you say that? Europe, Canada, etc. have all that and more, and many millions of immigrants.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:29:11 +0000

Not an exhaustive list.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:28:55 +0000

Andy – your comparison of the number of immigrants is invalid for several reasons – even if your stats are true (source?).

1) Does not account overall population since growth since then, ie proportionality.

2) Doesn’t account for discrepancies of supply vs. demand then vs. now.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:26:32 +0000

Andy: very briefly, to summarize: it’s not just the number of issues, it’s how they are weighted.

By: hogarth

hogarth — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:06:40 +0000

“Bob Barr favors the flat tax, but he said he would consider the FairTax WITHOUT the rebate part, just that tax.”

Link, please?

By: Joseph Marzullo

Joseph Marzullo — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:53:47 +0000

Andy,

why spreading your lies? Bob Barr favors the flat tax, but he said he would consider the FairTax WITHOUT the rebate part, just that tax. He saidwe need to repeal the 16th amendment before implementing a new tax system.

Chuck Baldwin is a protectionist.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:28:23 +0000

Let me amend my statement #75: I think marriage is whatever two or more people agree for it to be, and that government cannot add or take away from the validity of that agreement in the eyes of the parties involved, or any who agree to accept the union as a marriage. Anyone who disagrees should be free to as well.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:34:27 +0000

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By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:45:31 +0000

GE,

We all agree. Removing marriage from the sphere of government control should be priority number one!

Now isnt it fun when we agree?