Comments on: Tom Knapp to seek Boston Tea Party VP nomination

By: Peter Orvetti

Peter Orvetti — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:08:47 +0000

If neither Barr nor the BTP qualifies for D.C. ballot access, I’d probably write in Jay. If the LP makes the ballot, I’d probably vote LP just to boost the overall popular vote count.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:31:44 +0000

I hope the Indians intervene & help me & bail us out. The irony won’t be lost on me.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:28:05 +0000

Fred Church Ortiz, what I see is another political mistake in the making. Austin’s estimates look about right. So what amounts to an alternative ballot access line possibility to the LP is being wasted. Just like the LP ballot access was wasted on Barr. The fault is the obstinate purist notion that purity is more important than victory. e.g. case in point. Susan Hogarth recently declined my overtures for vp on an inclusive progressive alliance independent run. Much like Nader’s run only potentially far more inclusive. Her reasons, 2: Too busy and she objects to fusion candidacies. Case in point: Ruwart refuses to even talk with me. Then refuses to try for vp with Barr due to the obvious conflict of political philosophies. What about balancing the ticket? What about inclusiveness? Comparable to Obama/Clinton. Split the party. Now they will not win, in my opinion. Reagan democrats & many women & hispanics & elderly will vote McCain NOT BOB BARR who they probably do not know even exists. So, further split the teeny tiny third party pie INSTEAD of helping me to arrange an INCLUSIVE third party ticket to trump0 ALL the others esp the LP & GP & Nader but throw in the BTP & ALL the multitude of socialist parties. ALL will lose rather than one inclusive that very well could win, or rather more correctly, might have won. Tom Knapp continues to make political mistakes, much like his candidate Kubby. Go ahead & make your losing political statement.

By: Austin Cassidy

Austin Cassidy — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:13:56 +0000

Honestly, I think the Personal Choice Party works better as a name than the Boston Tea Party. Perhaps they should just merge the entities and try to take the PCP national?

This is an interesting development, though.

Being very conservative here, picking the lowest hanging fruit for ballot access…

Florida is good for 3,000 votes.
Louisiana will bring at least 1,200.
Jay got 1,000 in Utah last time.
Tennessee could be good for maybe 1,500.
At least 500 more from New Jersey.

Add some write-ins, and a few more ballot lines.

This ticket could get 10,000 to 15,000 votes nationally. Maybe a bit more, depending on ballot access and how hard they campaign.

By: Jason_Gatties

Jason_Gatties — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:51:57 +0000

And GE, we have got to get this going. Using the forum is cumbersome. But I did email you and Todd.

By: Jason_Gatties

Jason_Gatties — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:07:15 +0000

FYI..I’m a member of the BTP, although interacting with their website is very tough at times.

By: Jason_Gatties

Jason_Gatties — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:06:39 +0000

Does the Personal Choice Party still have Utah Ballot Access? If so, am I to assume it would be Jay/Knapp in Utah as well?

By: Fred Church Ortiz

Fred Church Ortiz — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:58:24 +0000

Robert: The BTP and Indians combined can’t get you on enough state ballots to win.

The GP delegates are pledged, and you’re not part of that process – we’ve been through this.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:38:42 +0000

Either Charles Jay or Tom Stevens would be good choices for the BTP. Charles Jay has been active in Utah for years,and the Personal Choice Party regularly recieves sizeable “income tax checkoffs” in Utah.

Tom Stevens, on the otherhand, has alot of friends in the Libertarian movement.

By: SEXYJC

SEXYJC — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:37:59 +0000

Please donate and urge others to donate. This is not a Primary , this is not a test. We need some serious money to get on crucial ballots and the window is closing as many deadlines are fast approaching in the next week or so. Please Please Please email, blogg, and ask for donations, state your case. http://www.bobbarr2008.com

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:57:06 +0000

Fred Church Ortiz, right. Heaven forbid that an independent might get on the ballot in enough states with BTP & Indian support & maybe get green ballots, maybe not. But enough to mathematically win. & enough people realized that independent might have some good ideas & bring in green & libertarian coattails & get in the debates & win & win the election. Unprecedented; closest being Teddy Roosevelt’s independent run in 1912. Heaven forbid. Catch fire indeed.

By: Fred Church Ortiz

Fred Church Ortiz — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:41:43 +0000

Odds of me voting for the BTP ticket are nil, but odds of me volunteering as a CA write-in elector to get their votes counted are fair. As long as the progressive alliance doesn’t catch fire in it.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:18:59 +0000

Jared, I know your question wasn’t in jest.

It would be a large undertaking to qualify a write-in presidential ticket in many let alone all states.

That said, I think the BFP still could qualify to be on the ballot, not as write-in, in Colorado and Louisiana by paying something like a $500.00 filing fee.

Here are the write-in requirements for California (individual states make their own election laws):

Be a natural-born citizen of the United States,
B. Be at least 35 years of age, and
C. Be a resident of the United States at least 14 years.
U.S. Const., art. II Â§(5)

Voters in the November General Election are technically voting for the 55
presidential elector candidates, not directly for the candidates for President and
Vice-President. Therefore, in order to be a write-in candidate, a person must have
55 write-in presidential elector candidates file papers pledging themselves to the
presidential candidate.
2. The 55 write-in elector candidates for presidential elector who have pledged
themselves to vote for a candidate for President and a candidate for Vice-
President must file declarations of write-in candidacy, which must be received by
the Secretary of State on or before October 21, 2008 (E-14).
Â§Â§ 8650, 8651, 8652, 8653

By: Six plank suggestions for the Boston Tea Party « Last Free Voice

Six plank suggestions for the Boston Tea Party « Last Free Voice — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:14:34 +0000

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By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:09:03 +0000

Tom Knapp wrote: “I canâ€™t speak for anyone else, but MY time and efforts are MINE to dispose of as I choose. ”

I’ve never suggested otherwise.