Comments on: ‘Ron Paul billionaire’ to get behind Chuck Baldwin

By: Eunomia » Baldwin Campaign To Get Cash Infusion?

Eunomia » Baldwin Campaign To Get Cash Infusion? — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:56:17 +0000

[...] More important for the practical success of the campaign, there is a rumourÂ that the alleged “Ron Paul billionaire” will provide a few million dollars to Baldwin to aid in ballot access.Â According to the story, [...]

By: Sean Scallon

Sean Scallon — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:37:05 +0000

I’ll belive in the “Ron Paul Billionare” as soon as a I hear a name. A simple name. Mr. So-and-So. As Shakespear wrote “What’s in a name?” Well a lot when it comes to this rumor. If you actually say who this person is, then maybe we can judge whether this persons exists or not, whether he has the money he says he does and whether he truly is a libertarian.

Short of that, then there is no “Ron Paul Billionare” because you cannot tell us who he is. If there is no name, then this person does not exists outside the realm of fanatsy.

In other words, put up or shut up. The last think Chuck Baldwin needs is to be caught up in the flotsam and jetsam of the Ron Paul campaign.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:27:53 +0000

JPS is the man! Your latest flurry of posts cracked me up, so I hope that was their intent.

I love how you hate Gordon and Redpath, etc., and yet you love Barr — the candidate they arguably conspired to the LP nomination. I suppose you hate Cory, Viguerie and the rest of the Barr conspiracy too, right?

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:05:58 +0000

“If Steve Gordon, or some other Ron Paul staffers, were coordinating to create a budget for this mythical billionaireâ€¦ that seems like a violation of the law.”

Gordon was nota staffer for Paul at the time–just an unofficial advisor–which is completely legal.

Also, GE is right. This billionaire could easily just ask Baldwin about the issues, and then make an independent expenditure. Or, he could plan to be a VP is one of many states, or an elector–and contribute an ENDLESS amount of his personal money DIRECTLY to the campaign AND coordinate it with that campaign.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:46:18 +0000

Talking does NOT equal coordination, talking IS coordinaton

Especially when you do it on a discussion board…now, you and Gordon may wish to continue our confab here, but I can assure you it is prosecutable…

No one who gives is hurt, just you and your butt buddy Gordon…the imbecile.

By: Ross Levin

Ross Levin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:46:10 +0000

Ease on down, John.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:43:59 +0000

If one couln’t imagine someone as stupid as G.E., well, we’d have to call L. Neil to create him.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:43:01 +0000

G.E. incredibly STUPIDLY asked this:

Talking = coordination?

So if Baldwin and the â€œbillionaireâ€ (who may not even exist, mind you) are in the same room, they need to give each other the silent treatment?

YES, you dimwitted follower of all who know nothing. YES.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:32:06 +0000

cause we must ount on outsiders to rid our ranks of people like Gordon, Andrews and Redpath
Folks like G.E. count on them. Like truthers count on Alex Jones.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:26:20 +0000

Go Barr! hehe

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:25:36 +0000

Whether is is Bill “keep guns away from everhone but me” Redpath; Stephen Gordon “I’ve never run or had an actual key role in ANY campaign Gordon” or Mr. “screw all the faggots” Andrews, they all are the same.

Understand that with the past and the CURRENT LNC, you get more of this.

Understand that you don’t make it better with shit like G.E. publishes here.

You make it worse.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:21:53 +0000

remember, G.E. posted the gem above about how Stephen Gordon doesn’t lie.

Stephen Gordon is Bill Redpath’s butt boy. Stephen Gordon’s involvement in this should raise a red flag to anyone.

Stephen Gordon has NO actual campaign experience ANYWHERE.

And, in that way, Stephen Gordon is EXACTLY what passes for LP for someone like G.E.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:05:18 +0000

and fuck the LP and those past and current employees, like Stephen Gordon, who know nothing except how to win the confidence of dolts like G.E.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:59:26 +0000

Finally, this stuff is BASIC campaign finance law. G.E’s original post was BS. Gordon’s comments, pure B.S. by a scam artist.

Wingers’, misinterpreted by G.E.

The simple fact is….FUCK THE BILLIONAIRE.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:55:14 +0000

With ALL unnamed sources, Gordon spins the yarn that he was connected, and lemmings like G.E. follow.

Why they do this is simple. They like to THINK they are connected to some ultimate reality.

But, as G.E.’s original post shows, he has no clue…like his hero Gordon, G.E. has no clue.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:44:44 +0000

Again, I demand, that IPR and YOU put up or shut up. Show me the ONE successful campaign ever run by one Stephen Gordon. Come on, show me!

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:43:34 +0000

Here’s the simple factual truth. Richard Winger does know alot about ballot access law and NEVER has done field work.

I do field work.

Stephen Gordon steals from those who do actual work.

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:41:31 +0000

The simple facts are these.

No individual may contribute more than 2,300.00 to ANY coordinated effort…

There are some larger amounts for individuals (constantly in flux) when those “gifts” are made to “parties”.

NO such larger amounts apply in the case of electors. Sure, everyone, LONG TIME, has understood the “elector exception”…pure BS and I’m not sure why Richard even weighed in with this TOTAL BS and TOTALLY disconnected thought.

But it got you going, right? Shit, read the decision, if you can’t understand what Richard actually posted here…he shouldn’t even have posted it.

One CAN NOT coordinate. It IS that simple. There IS NO workaround.

THAT, and the absolutely sTUPID NOTION that Stephen Gordon EVER has had anything to do with even ONE successful campaign is really too much to swallow.

GET SOME FACTS BEFORE YOU PUBLISH.

LEARN SOMETHING.

Even by your own standards, this guy has sold out your party, and you herald the idiot?

COME ON?

By: John P Slevin

John P Slevin — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:34:39 +0000

G.E.,

Talking = coordination?

So if Baldwin and the â€œbillionaireâ€ (who may not even exist, mind you) are in the same room, they need to give each other the silent treatment?

Your original article clearly articulates much more than that.

You insultingly mentoned a nothing like Stephen Gordon and proposed that he knew something, when, legally, he could not

Then, you grasped on Richard Winger’s comment regarding a Supremes decision which you stubbornly refuse to understand.

All the while you treated my original comment like some Barrism.

Don’t grasp at some the fantasies of some invetereate liar like Stephen Gordon to tell me I don’t know what I am talkinga about as far as campaign finance law goes.

Stephen Gordon’s entire story, as related by you, shows a conspiracy to violate campaign finance law.

NOTHING Richard Winger posted obviates that.

Gordon is so far off any reservation as to be laughable.

Who is their right frigging mind would hire some STUPE like Gordon to create a budget for a high budget campaign? Show me ONE person, EVER, who has hired Gordon for such an effort. Just show me ONE.

Be honest.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:24:29 +0000

Talking = coordination?

So if Baldwin and the “billionaire” (who may not even exist, mind you) are in the same room, they need to give each other the silent treatment?