Comments on: American Independent Party convention

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:37:52 +0000

Andrea,

There are essentially two factions of the AIP right now.

1.) The Keyes faction. This faction is mostly made up of 3 previous officers, headed by Ed Noonan, former State Chairman. This group wants to leave the CP.
2.) The Old AIP faction. This faction nominated Chuck Baldwin and is aligned closely with the CP. Its made up of the rest of the officers from before the break (about 7 of them, I think), all the past state chairman.

It seems that the vast majority of the membership obviously prefers the Old AIP faction.

By: Andrea Stadlin

Andrea Stadlin — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:58:12 +0000

131/09 Am a member of the CP who had thought Chuck Baldwin was the AIP’s 2008 nomination for President . Found this not so (back in August?) Was told by AIP leadership in phone call from same today that CP didn’t abide by parliamentary procedure during convention, and other “railroading” (my word) tactics used. Also, that C. Baldwin a “sallow” /weak candidate. I personally found him quite convincing at a gathering of CP supporters in S.D. County last summer. Would appreciate additional comments. (My e-mail account is at my local library and I’ll not get back to for about a week.

By: MattSwartz

MattSwartz — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:47:34 +0000

I’m intrigued that Orange County is one of the big counties, but I guess it makes sense, since that was a high-density area for the JBS at one time and they probably educated tons of voters.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:09:09 +0000

No its not. Los Angeles County and Orange County.

Orange County, especially, is well organized and is where most of the action happens these days.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:59:22 +0000

Matt–ill get back to you on that. I believe one of them is Santa Clara.

By: MattSwartz

MattSwartz — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:10:46 +0000

But the two major counties where the AIP is organized best, are controlled by loyal CPers and Baldwin supporters.
Trent, you’ve made me curious: what are the AIP’s two strongest counties?

By: profg

profg — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:12:44 +0000

He’ll probably make it on the ballot, at least in Colorado, New Jersey, Tennessee, and Louisiana; maybe also Washington, Arkansas, Iowa, Utah, Mississippi, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

Some of even those states, however, have “sore loser” laws that don’t allow a person who was a candidate in the primaries to run for the same office as an independent. In those states, he’d probably have to go through procedures to qualify for write-in status.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:17:02 +0000

Maybe Keyes should seek the BTP nomination.

Does he support the 14th amendment?

Oh yeah. He’s a Lincolnian, so I guess he does.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:12:40 +0000

Peter,

Not to my knowledge–no.

By: Peter Orvetti

Peter Orvetti — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:56:47 +0000

Is Keyes on any state ballots yet, or within range of any?

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:08:13 +0000

Fred,

My understanding is that Noonan is now apathetic about it all–only one officer is backing the manuevers and doesn’t even really have the support of the chairman. However, I suspect they’ll appoint a few Keyes supporters. But the two major counties where the AIP is organized best, are controlled by loyal CPers and Baldwin supporters.

By: Fred Church Ortiz

Fred Church Ortiz — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:59:37 +0000

Trent: did you find out if anything came of Noonan’s committee appointment scheme?