Comments on: Judge upholds ballot-access restrictions in NC http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/ Covering America's third parties and independent candidates since May 2008 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:37:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: A recipe for real change: A Coalition of 3rd parties | Defenestrating Thoughts from the Bivouac http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-12168 A recipe for real change: A Coalition of 3rd parties | Defenestrating Thoughts from the Bivouac Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:58:03 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-12168 [...] is fundamentally too high. A great example of this is a Superior Court ruling back in May about 3rd party ballot access, when the judge said: “there is no fundamental right for a voter to vote for the party of [...] [...] is fundamentally too high. A great example of this is a Superior Court ruling back in May about 3rd party ballot access, when the judge said: “there is no fundamental right for a voter to vote for the party of [...]

]]> By: Laissez-faire » Blog Archive » No Right to Vote Third Party? http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-3303 Laissez-faire » Blog Archive » No Right to Vote Third Party? Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:05:24 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-3303 [...] According to North Carolina Supreme Court Judge, Robert Hodge, “there is no fundamental right for a voter to vote for the party of their choice.” The Libertarian and Green parties were challenging North Carolina election laws that kept them off the ballot. The judge threw out the challenge, arguing that having too many names on the ballot would cause confusion. [...] [...] According to North Carolina Supreme Court Judge, Robert Hodge, “there is no fundamental right for a voter to vote for the party of their choice.” The Libertarian and Green parties were challenging North Carolina election laws that kept them off the ballot. The judge threw out the challenge, arguing that having too many names on the ballot would cause confusion. [...]

]]> By: fmhenry4@netzero.com http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1420 fmhenry4@netzero.com Sat, 31 May 2008 00:03:59 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1420 Hi, The two minority parties (Dem &Rep) love the unconstitutional grip they have throughout these United States. Yes, we Dem and my fellow Rep are "minority" parties. We each claim only about 1/3 of registered voters...Since that is less than 50%, it makes us "minority" parties. Now, what can we do to bring all parties and individuals to the table in our constitutional republic form of democracy. Thanks and Good Luck, Frank Henry Cottonwood Arizona Hi,

The two minority parties (Dem &Rep) love
the unconstitutional grip they have
throughout these United States.

Yes, we Dem and my fellow Rep are
“minority” parties. We each claim only
about 1/3 of registered voters…Since that
is less than 50%, it makes us “minority”
parties.

Now, what can we do to bring all parties
and individuals to the table in our
constitutional republic form of democracy.

Thanks and Good Luck,

Frank Henry
Cottonwood Arizona

]]> By: Americans are too stupid … : Welcome to Fuglyville http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1371 Americans are too stupid … : Welcome to Fuglyville Fri, 30 May 2008 13:18:55 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1371 [...] to have the option of more than two choices on an election ballot. So says Judge Robert Hobgood of North Carolina. The more parties there are that are recognized by the State and that place candidates on the [...] [...] to have the option of more than two choices on an election ballot. So says Judge Robert Hobgood of North Carolina. The more parties there are that are recognized by the State and that place candidates on the [...]

]]> By: vortexoffreedom http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1323 vortexoffreedom Fri, 30 May 2008 02:59:09 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1323 I didn't know that I don't know how to vote. I am a North Carolina Libertarian and I find this ruling despicable. If only the Whigs have done this to the Republicans in the 1850s. I didn’t know that I don’t know how to vote. I am a North Carolina Libertarian and I find this ruling despicable.

If only the Whigs have done this to the Republicans in the 1850s.

]]> By: Chad Perrin: SOB » a great day for democracy http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1316 Chad Perrin: SOB » a great day for democracy Fri, 30 May 2008 01:44:18 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1316 [...] Carolina Superior Court Judge Robert Hobgood ruled "there is no fundamental right for a voter to vote for the party of their choice. By extension, then, it would be entirely appropriate for North Carolina (or any state, for that [...] [...] Carolina Superior Court Judge Robert Hobgood ruled “there is no fundamental right for a voter to vote for the party of their choice. By extension, then, it would be entirely appropriate for North Carolina (or any state, for that [...]

]]> By: Jerry S. http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1303 Jerry S. Thu, 29 May 2008 23:35:06 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1303 Everyone should pretend to be a citizen of NC for a week and write a Letter to the Editor of NC's newspapers giving this Judge BY NAME teatotal hell. Don't mention your Party's name. Attack this fascist from a citizens standpoint and be sure to include the Iraq facts ! The bast#r^s only understand "public opinion". Make this tuckey feel the heat he deserves! All third Party members and indies need to write. At least hit these papers and comment on their blog. Let the people know this judge thinks they are idiot dumbasses. We must break their lock on ballot access if we will ever have a chance to win. Please help ! THX http://www.usnpl.com/ncnews.php Everyone should pretend to be a citizen of NC for a week and write a Letter to the Editor of NC’s newspapers giving this Judge BY NAME teatotal hell. Don’t mention your Party’s name. Attack this fascist from a citizens standpoint and be sure to include the Iraq facts ! The bast#r^s only understand “public opinion”. Make this tuckey feel the heat he deserves! All third Party members and indies need to write. At least hit these papers and comment on their blog. Let the people know this judge thinks they are idiot dumbasses.

We must break their lock on ballot access if we will ever have a chance to win. Please help ! THX

http://www.usnpl.com/ncnews.php

]]> By: William Dalton http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1298 William Dalton Thu, 29 May 2008 22:27:04 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1298 I agree the portions of Judge Hobgood's opinion given in this report do not commend themselves. But the question a true believer in the rule of law and lover of liberty must ask is, "What legal basis is there to contest North Carolina's party registration requirements? To overrule a statute passed by the State's elected legislators one must have more than an argument based upon policy. One cannot just say, this is an unwise law, this is a law that frustrates the working of democracy. One must be able to point to a provision of the Constitution (in this case, the North Carolina Constitution) and be able to argue credibly that this statute, or at least this application of the statute, contradicts that Constitutional provision. What is it? If you can't do that, you are no better than the liberals who have dominated the U.S. Supreme Court for seventy years who will strike down laws with scant support for doing so in the text of the Constitution, and only on the basis of their own disagreement with them. I agree the portions of Judge Hobgood’s opinion given in this report do not commend themselves. But the question a true believer in the rule of law and lover of liberty must ask is, “What legal basis is there to contest North Carolina’s party registration requirements? To overrule a statute passed by the State’s elected legislators one must have more than an argument based upon policy. One cannot just say, this is an unwise law, this is a law that frustrates the working of democracy. One must be able to point to a provision of the Constitution (in this case, the North Carolina Constitution) and be able to argue credibly that this statute, or at least this application of the statute, contradicts that Constitutional provision. What is it? If you can’t do that, you are no better than the liberals who have dominated the U.S. Supreme Court for seventy years who will strike down laws with scant support for doing so in the text of the Constitution, and only on the basis of their own disagreement with them.

]]> By: Judge rules against third-parties. - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1296 Judge rules against third-parties. - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Thu, 29 May 2008 22:15:52 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1296 [...] will continue to fight for our rights and the rights of all North Carolinians,” Howe concluded. Source Is this the democracy we're dying to spread? __________________ Collectivism is [...] [...] will continue to fight for our rights and the rights of all North Carolinians,” Howe concluded. Source Is this the democracy we’re dying to spread? __________________ Collectivism is [...]

]]> By: Barbara Howe http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1096 Barbara Howe Wed, 28 May 2008 22:06:06 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1096 To answer JustAHoax concern that he heard we had announced we were on, the lawsuit and the petition drive were two seperate actions. We are a legally recognized party for the 2008 election after turning in 108,000 signatures a couple of weeks ago to satisfy the 70,000 signature requirement. The independent action of the lawsuit was done in the hopes of getting the law struck down so we never have to petition again. We have done it eight times, and it gets bigger and bigger every cycle. Next time will undoubtedly be over 80,000. So, even though the judge's ruling sucks big time, it will have no effect on our ability to run this year. To answer JustAHoax concern that he heard we had announced we were on, the lawsuit and the petition drive were two seperate actions. We are a legally recognized party for the 2008 election after turning in 108,000 signatures a couple of weeks ago to satisfy the 70,000 signature requirement. The independent action of the lawsuit was done in the hopes of getting the law struck down so we never have to petition again. We have done it eight times, and it gets bigger and bigger every cycle. Next time will undoubtedly be over 80,000.

So, even though the judge’s ruling sucks big time, it will have no effect on our ability to run this year.

]]> By: Peter Orvetti http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1092 Peter Orvetti Wed, 28 May 2008 20:53:35 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1092 The AP report is here: http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080528/NRSTAFF/856553151 The AP report is here:
http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080528/NRSTAFF/856553151

]]> By: RedPhillips http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1073 RedPhillips Wed, 28 May 2008 19:10:45 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1073 “In effect, the State says North Carolina voters are not as smart as Iraqis, who had more than 100 parties to choose from in their elections,” Howe said . Ha ha. Great quote. The irony. America is exporting democracy to Iraq, and after one election they are better at it than us. I have made this observation in the past. http://etherzone.com/2005/phill020905.shtml “In effect, the State says North Carolina voters are not as smart as Iraqis, who had more than 100 parties to choose from in their elections,” Howe said .

Ha ha. Great quote. The irony. America is exporting democracy to Iraq, and after one election they are better at it than us. I have made this observation in the past.

http://etherzone.com/2005/phill020905.shtml

]]> By: Ross Levin http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1061 Ross Levin Wed, 28 May 2008 18:49:18 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1061 Just another reason to vote for the Ni4D... Just another reason to vote for the Ni4D…

]]> By: Brian Miller http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1057 Brian Miller Wed, 28 May 2008 18:39:38 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1057 Thanks for the update, Richard. Thanks for the update, Richard.

]]> By: JustAHoax http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/05/judge-upholds-ballot-access-restrictions/comment-page-1/#comment-1056 JustAHoax Wed, 28 May 2008 18:28:06 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=135#comment-1056 I'm confused, I thought they said at the convention that they were on the ballot already. Does this decision reverse that, or was this just a similar case they had to ease ballot restrictions in the state? I’m confused, I thought they said at the convention that they were on the ballot already. Does this decision reverse that, or was this just a similar case they had to ease ballot restrictions in the state?

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