Comments on: Did Bob Barr win the LP presidential nomination?

By: Jerry S.

Jerry S. — Thu, 29 May 2008 23:55:59 +0000

LOL-327 on that first ballot, if ALL certified delegates voted. It is always the majority of votes cast. Barr actually could have won with (what?) 314 votes on that sixth ballot. It’s always 50 % + 1 vote of the votes cast !

By: G.E.

G.E. — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:18:31 +0000

Lance – It appears you are right — with a quorum at a mere 40% of the delegates in attendance. But you’d think that with all of the incessant debating over the bylaws, that they could be a little more specific. Also, it was WRONG for whoever said it, from the podium, to say the winner would need 327 if that was not the case… Which it appears was not.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:15:46 +0000

Fred – On the first ballot, Mary had 12 votes; Kubby 1. There were a total of 26. Mary held at 13 through most rounds, but the final tally was 16 for her, 8 for Barr, and 1 for NOTA. One other guy left.

By: Lance Brown

Lance Brown — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:05:21 +0000

It has to be based on a majority of the votes cast, otherwise a large enough delegate walkout could result in no one being able to win at all.

By: Fred Church Ortiz

Fred Church Ortiz — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:50:44 +0000

I thought Michigan was solid Ruwart, what happenned to the dropout?

By: G.E.

G.E. — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:20:53 +0000

ayn – For all I know, the original author is taking other steps.

By: aynrkey

aynrkey — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:19:53 +0000

Ok, GE, then my comment goes back to your source. If the original author won’t act on what was written, the original author is saying the grapes our sour.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:06:27 +0000

Ross – I emailed you.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:04:40 +0000

Brian – You’re undoubtedly right on some level, but I’m sure there must be a minimum for a quorum.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:03:30 +0000

ayn – This is a news blog. Someone passed me this news. I posted it. The only waste of time or energy is posting comments if you think it’s a waste of time and energy.

By: aynrkey

aynrkey — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:01:50 +0000

Unless you plan to show this to the LP Judicial Committee, then this is a waste of time and energy.

By: Brian Miller

Brian Miller — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:01:47 +0000

In other words, if 324 of the delegates had left to go to Starbucks during the voting, and the remaining 3 had all voted for Barr, Barr would have won.

By: Brian Miller

Brian Miller — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:00:45 +0000

the credentials-committee leader specifically said â€œ327â€³ as the magic number

The magic number if 100% of credentialed delegates cast a vote.

However, I’m 99% certain that the requirement is not a majority of credentialed delegates, but rather a majority of voting delegates.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:57:19 +0000

Brian – Yes, W.A.R. certainly had less than a majority of the credentialed delegates. But the Barr aspect stands out because the chair or the credentials-committee leader specifically said “327″ as the magic number.

Our Michigan delegation lost one person during the course of balloting. In all, there were 626 who cast ballots the final round — meaning 26 credentialed delegates did not cast votes the final round.

By: Ross Levin

Ross Levin — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:55:55 +0000

By the way, I have another press release from John Murhy’s campaign (he’s an independent running for Congress in PA’s 16th District). I would be willing to post it…

By: Brian Miller

Brian Miller — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:54:10 +0000

Perhaps only a majority of ballots cast during a particular round was required

I believe this is correct. In fact, it was the departure of a number of delegates from the floor that helped contribute to Kubby’s loss in the VP voting.

By: Ross Levin

Ross Levin — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:49:46 +0000

So what does it mean if he didn’t actually win?